23rd Aug 2010, 18:59

"It's a domestic after all"

You know, generalizing ALL cars made in the U. S this way is plain wrong. That's like saying Ford, GM, Chrysler etc. all make the same product.

Outside of my house, I have one GM with over 200,000 miles with no major repairs; and my dad has a Ford F-350 with 370,000 miles with original tranny AND engine. My brother has a similar 350 with over 300,000 miles...

You just simply cannot generalize ALL domestic cars as low quality crap. I'm not gonna deny that ALL AUTOMAKERS make low-quality crap; but to make sweeping generalizations really gets me angry...

29th Aug 2010, 22:21

Original poster here.

I had zero problems with my Fit so far, except for rock impacts on my paint. I'm very satisfied.

Don't compare full size trucks with econo cars please. The Focus isn't bad, but the resale value in five years will be by far better on my Honda than any domestic, period.

4th Sep 2010, 17:34

I agree. The big three have a history of making decent trucks and SUVS, but they shouldn't be compared to econo cars. The big three have never cared about econo cars. I wanted to support them when I bought a car in in 2005, but the only offering from domestics was the awful Chevrolet Aveo. I wisely avoided it, and bought a Toyota Echo. It's performed flawlessly with over 100 000 Km on it. No recalls, or safety issues either. I plan to buy a Toyota Yaris if I ever need to replace it. The Fit is too expensive.

17th Sep 2010, 20:02

In Canada the Toyota Yaris with equal features is more expensive than the Fit.

The 2011 Fit will be assembled in the USA BTW, in the Michigan Honda plant. If memory serves, Honda has assembled several of its vehicles there over the past 5 years or so.

Come to think of it, so have many so called imports like SAAB, BMW, Lexus/Toyota, and Volkswagen.

I have a 2003 Ford Focus and it is crap. I also have a 1997 Ford Taurus GL, and it continues to work well, and much more quietly than most of the new cars I've driven lately. Of course all of those test drives have been compact and sub compact, so it isn't fair to compare the noise level to a nice quiet mid sized Taurus.

Ford and GMC have always battled for #1 spot in trucks. There hasn't been, and still isn't any competition for the dollar.

Nuff said.

18th Sep 2010, 22:53

I'm not completely sure, but I think the Yaris is cheaper than the Fit in Canada. You can get a three door base model with manual transmission that comes pretty cheap. The Fit only comes as a Five door, and base model manual versions are hard to find. At least that's what I've heard.

Toyota also assembles cars in Canada, where I live. Although cars are becoming more global in terms of production, I still think it was foolish of the big three to ignore the small car segment for so long.

The Focus set records for recalls, and the Aveo is on many ten worst car lists. I know Aveo is built in South Korea, but you'd think Chevy could have offered consumers something better. Chrysler is now waiting for Fiat to make small cars for them, because they never cared either.