22nd Jul 2007, 07:25
I didn't make any comment on the reliability of hyundai/kia. In truth I couldn't claim to be interested in whether these type of cars are reliable or not.
A couple of years ago I did momentarily look at a hyundai car, but the quality was so far off mainstream manufacturers.
I never claimed to be a car expert and certainly don't believe you could be much of a car expert since you have purchased a hyundai.
23rd Jul 2007, 12:36
Hmmm, Optometric salaries do not reflect in a purchase of 1986 hyundai excelle, I can assure you of that. I don't know anyone within my own profession who drives a hyundai. Surely if I were to drive one I would need a large scarf in case I saw someone I knew!
23rd Jul 2007, 14:56
If I saw a supposed Optometrist driving a Chevrolet, with the exception of a Vette, I would have to laugh. Business a little slow, "Doc"?
23rd Jul 2007, 16:54
Hyundai: the perfect car to get to your $6/hour job. And best of all, you can still brag about how it's a 2007, and feel smug that it's newer than the "old" '05 BMW that your physician (or divorce lawyer) is driving.
23rd Jul 2007, 19:35
I would think that an optometrist would not need to be told to take a closer look at something (get it), but apparently this is the case.
OK: look carefully at the panel gaps (symmetry and consistency) of your Chevy, or even a new one, any model. Now, take a close look at the assembly of the panels on a new Hyundai. What's the difference? Now sit inside a new Hyundai (even the Accent, their most inexpensive model, I believe) and look at the quality of material used on the interior of the car. Shake the steering wheel, turn the knobs, move the levers, etc. Do the same thing in a Chevy that costs twice as much. What's the difference?
Now start the Hyundai and hold the accelerator down until the tachometer (if present) reads 4000 rpm's. Listen to the engine. Now do the same thing in any Chevrolet and listen to the engine. What's the difference?
I would think that you would not need to be told about paying attention to the finer details. If you were to actually do this little experiment of mine, you would clearly see that the Hyundai is better built, inside and out, right down to the last detail.
And if you want to go another few steps up the ladder, try owning a Toyota for 10 or 12 years. A 10 year old Chevy is generally just a collection of rattling, loose, and nearly worn out parts. A 10 year old Toyota will feel tight after all that time, and run just about the same as the day you bought it.
24th Jul 2007, 17:05
Not speaking about anyone in particular, I would just like to know what kind of poor souls define themselves by what kind of car they drive?
Cars are transportation, people, nothing more. If you have even a vaguely interesting life, you use the vehicle to get you where you need to go. That's the extent of my love affair with vehicles.
If you think that driving a Mercedes will get you any more respect than driving a Hyundai, then you need to start cultivating some kind of personality.
Hyundai's are just fine with me. They're inexpensive, get great gas mileage, rarely break down, and get me from A to B with no trouble. Why exactly would I want to spend another $40,000 on a BMW? Seems kind of dumb to me. Do they fly or something?
It's laughable to see someone drive something they bought as a 'status' symbol. Their 'status' is usually having a shallow personality, and way more money than brains.
I enjoy driving, but not enough to spend 50 or 60 thousand dollars on a CAR, when I can buy a Hyundai that will last just as long for $15,000. Maybe I'm deluded or something, but I'll save the extra $50,000, and take a couple of month long vacations to Italy or something, and still have plenty left in the bank.
Just my opinion.
25th Jul 2007, 17:04
12:08 What you mean to say is that you refuse to compare your Chevy to a Hyundai for fear that the obvious will finally occur to you; you wasted your money on a Chevrolet when you could have bought a better car for less money.
By the way, Chevy's are not middle of the road when it comes to how much they depreciate. They are near the bottom, if not dead last. Get yourself a Kelly Blue Book. Read it. I'll be glad to name a few that hold their value better: Hyundai, Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Subaru, Mazda... I could go on, but really, why bother?
27th Jul 2007, 14:03
12:54 What they cost new has nothing to do with it. It is the PERCENTAGE of value that the car holds year by year. A new Chevy priced at $16,000 dollars will be worth $9000 dollars after x number of years, and a comparable Honda of the same model year that also cost $16,000 new (and yes, Hyundai also) will be worth 12 or $13,000 in the same condition and with the same mileage. The Chevy will lose a greater percentage of its value, and there are very few auto manufacturers who do worse than Chevy does in that area. Your point isn't valid.
29th Jul 2007, 13:29
11:01 Yes, you do need it explained to you. You simply restated your definition of depreciation again, and it is incorrect. Of course a $14,000 Hyundai will be worth less after 5 years than a $26,000 dollar Chevy. Obviously. AGAIN, whichever car held a greater PERCENTAGE of its value depreciated LESS. I'm not sure what country you live in, but here in the U.S., Chevrolet is the second rate auto manufacturer, hanging by a thread, and Hyundai is quickly becoming well respected.
How old are you? Old enough to remember the garbage that GM put out all through the '80's? Those vehicles are proof enough that GM went downhill a long time ago. And if you try to tell me that GM built good cars in the '80's, then I KNOW that you have no idea what you are talking about, or simply won't admit that they are scrap. Look at the cars Toyota built in the '80s. They are worlds ahead of what GM made then AND what they make today. And Hyundai is building more reliable cars than GM ever did.
30th Jul 2007, 14:34
Hyundai recently scored 2nd, behind Porche, in J. D power & Associates quality ratings. Hyundai finished ahead of Toyota, Honda, Lexus, Mercedes, BMW... etc. When I heard that, it justified my purchace of an 07' Sonata, which by the way, can out run many respected sport sedans.
30th Jul 2007, 14:38
The fact is, I would never buy a domestic brand; namely GM Ford, Chrysler. I would only buy European if I had the money for the repairs. I will stick with any Asian brand; Toyota, Honda, Hyundai. These 3 manufacturers will be, or are already the new "big 3".
1st Aug 2007, 00:30
Yes Hyundai does seem to be increasing in quality, but it has aways to go before it is respected as much as Chevrolet or Toyota. In regard to the last comment, because of friends experiences buying brand new Japanese cars that had nothing, but problems, I would honestly rather buy a Hyundai than a Toyota or Honda. European cars are dangerous, count on dependability problems and very high maintenance costs.