1989 Lancia Prisma Symbol 1.6 i.e. from UK and Ireland

Summary:

Brilliant retro experience

Faults:

Failed to start after stop on way home. Traced this to a common Fiat/Lancia problem of loose wire to starter motor.

Rattle from rear brake caliper. Solved by repositioning anti chatter spring from bottom to top of pads.

False error readings from check panel. Sorted by cleaning connections and wiring out signal from brake pad wear sensor.

Clutch very heavy with bite point too high. Replacement clutch has transformed the car.

General Comments:

Bought this on a bit of a whim back in the summer. Have used it as a daily driver ever since and absolutely love it. The Lampredi twin cam engine is a real delight and the comfort level is so much better than any modern car. The best £2000 I have spent on a car, and worth it just to enjoy for as long as it keeps going. Hopefully plenty of life left in it if I can keep the rust at bay.

The car is much better built than Lancia critics would allow, and is perfectly usable in modern traffic conditions. A real understated gem.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 29th November, 2017

16th Sep 2022, 13:59

Is this car basically a Delta with a boot? It looks cool anyways, always liked Lancia from this time period.

16th Sep 2022, 20:37

Yes, it's actually a Delta with a boot... "The only appealing hatch with a boot" as CAR magazine stated at the time (with Vauxhall Belmonts and Ford Orions being the norms of what "hatches with a boot" looked like).

But the Prisma was not just a pretty face. In 1.6 litre form it had the twin-cam Lampredi, albeit (criminally) underfed by one twin-choke carb (instead of the twin double-choke - usually - webers found in the Alfa's bialbero)... meaning that even if 105ps was fine for the eighties, it didn't have that "get up and go" of its illustrious rival (the Alfa 75) lower down in the rev range - while also feeling boomy and not overwhelmingly powerful near the red line. Lancia tried to compensate with low gearing, if I recall correctly 120 km/h in 5th was something like 3800-4000 rpm. They finally gave up and used electronic injection on the top spec 1.6 from '86 onward, which theoretically should have spiced things up (but never drove this one to check).

Where it did excel was in the handling department: Absolutely stable at even its max speed (around 180 km/h), sailed through crosswinds as if they weren't there... and yet a chuckable B-road performer with brilliant (if unassisted as standard) steering. All these at the price of a very well controlled but quite firm suspension.

Interior quality was a testament of traditional cost-cutting imposed by Fiat, with cheap plastic used to create elegant forms and thereby give that feeling of luxury. But build quality was only skin deep, with, for instance, a soft touch instrument cluster round padding which would deform and become sticky after short periods of sun exposure. And brittle plastic everywhere. In that respect, the Lancia quality and engineering integrity of the 50's and 60's was largely gone... and only survived in the chassis/suspension design, with some of the best chassis engineers available working for Lancia (and paid by Fiat ....) in the 70's and 80's.

All this seems as a mixed-bag review of a car, but the reality is this: if I could find a later 1.6 fuel injected Prisma in a well preserved original condition I would buy it in a heartbeat. Several decades of living with Fiat/Lancia/Alfa's has taught me how well these cars respond to being treated with care, and how rewarding a drive can be in a well cared for example.

17th Sep 2022, 18:34

Excellent reply, thanks! It is an interesting car I would definitely considering buying as a useable classic.

1989 Lancia Prisma 1.6 i.e. from Portugal

Summary:

Just a beast!

Faults:

Shock absorbers and exhaust changed at 160000Km.

Air conditioner doesn't work.

Power windows switches need to be replaced, but no more big problems...

General Comments:

This car is very powerful for an 80's 1.6 engine, top engine rpm's are very high, with 110 hp, this electronic injected engine has a devil soul. The gear box is very short, and that improves a great acceleration. Top speed with down inclination is 200 Km/h.

Another good aspect of this car is the comfort, good seats, good climatization (with air conditioner), soft controls, only power steering is missing.

Brakes have disks at the 4 wheels.

Suspension isn't original, shock absorbers were changed, so I can't have an opinion for the stock suspension, but the car is VERY stable and comfortable with Sachs absorbers.

Electronics are good, the dashboard has a computer with fuel consumption and exterior temperature meter, max speed reached record, with a check panel that includes various warning lights including low brake pads, low brakes oil level, low refrigerant, low engine oil level and pressure etc... The main meter console includes various lights; engine oil pressure meter, voltmeter, and the common meters...

Cheers.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? No

Review Date: 7th January, 2010

13th Jul 2021, 17:29

I like your review. I bought a Lancia Prisma 1.6 i.e. new in 1986 and absolutely loved the car.

It did have it quality problems. On the day I received it from the dealer and parked when I arrived at home, I could not close the right hand electric window. Unfortunately I lived in the center of Rotterdam and could not afford to leave the window open. So after a quick investigation I found that the window switch in the passenger door panel was fitted the wrong way around (it was actually not properly fitted; the connector is not symmetric). Anyhow, turned around the connector and the window was operating again.

Then after 2,500 km the engine started the behave a bit erratic, so back to the garage and it was established that the camshaft was wearing out (bit early after 2,500 km from new) so cam shafts replaced, but after 6,000 km same thing again. Then it was established that not enough oil was delivered to lubricate the cam shaft. The oil pump was replaced and problem solved.

Next issue was with the front wheel drive shafts, they wore out quickly (15,000 km) started to rattle. All replaced.

In Liverpool I broke the aluminium rims (driving through a pot hole). And worst of all I had a head on collision after one year, after which the car was declared a total loss. Now we are in 2021 and I have had many nice cars since, but for me the car I liked best was this Lancia Prisma 1.6 i.e.

13th Jul 2021, 19:28

Had a similar experience with a Lancia Thema many years ago. Not the most reliable cars, but fun and unique.