15th Feb 2011, 16:47

I agree with you wholeheartedly. The cars coming out of Detroit are jokes. To think of what Lincoln is asking for these should make Ford ashamed of themselves. I am a Buick fan, and when I look at my Park Avenue compared to the new Lucerne or Lacrosse, I just don't understand why they discontinued the Park Avenue. The new cars are not fit to be flagships, and truly are the antithesis of what a traditional American luxury car once was. Unfortunately though, we will probably never see real cars again, unless you like the sports and GT models.

15th Feb 2011, 23:20

Yes, the MKS is FWD standard, AWD optional. I have been driving these big Fords for 7 years, and it's really hard to try and like the new replacements.

24th Aug 2013, 15:52

The decision made to discontinue the Lincoln Town Car is indeed unwise. Since the discontinuance of the larger Cadillacs, Lincoln had the large luxury sedan market to themselves, and the decision to discontinue the Town Car was not due to poor sales.

26th Aug 2013, 17:04

Then what was it due to? In the last several years Lincoln and Cadillac could hardly move 20,000 of these sedans each year (in the very last few years it was closer to 10K). In their prime they could easily move 200,000. It is sad, and hard for many of us to understand, but by and large, Americans no longer like to purchase large sedans.

27th Aug 2013, 13:40

You're right they don't, and that's truly unfortunate. It's seems like the only people left that still love big cars are the gangsters, pimps and drug dealers on the streets in the hoods all across America. In all honesty, it is true especially in my neighborhood. Most ghetto folks like the big old school sedans from the back in the day. In upper middle class neighborhoods, you don't see this anymore. There was a time when if the person in your neighborhood had the biggest car on the block, that meant he was well off.

As a society, we have compromised everything from the cars we drive, to the homes that we live in. Just look at most of the newly built housing stock in the U.S. Many of them are condo's that are small, or single family homes that have way less square footage than homes built in the 50's-70's, plus they cost much more to purchase today.

I am not some old guy either that enjoys the older full sizers from the past. We also have to understand that modern cars simply lack the flare, comfort, styling and size compared to the gigantic Cadillacs and Lincolns of the 70s. Modern cars just don't stand out, and are safely designed to a certain purpose where the stylist can't go overboard or really go all out in the car design, since it might be too "harsh" and "offending" to the general public. This is why so many new vehicles look the same, and have this sort of safe styling to them, which sucks because I love bold, "in your face" glamorous cars where you actually feel proud of driving it, and knew that what you drove made others envy you. This isn't the case anymore.

The 90-97 Town Cars were the last of the good looking and formal TC's designed for the modern era. Once the 98's rolled around, it was over. Sure it's still a Town Car, but you will notice less interior leg room and worse interior materials on the 98-2002 models vs the earlier 90's TC's. Generally, the older the car (or generation), the better the materials. My father owns a 2001 TC Cartier, and the interior is like sitting in one huge cheap plastic container. It's utter crap. The 90-94 TC's interiors were not that good either compared to a Lexus of a similar year, but at least the door panels and leather seats were higher quality in touch than the 2000's models.

Still, it's nice to read that people are continuing to drive these cars on a daily basis. Wish more people like us thought alike, and all drove big cars, but as time goes on, people's priorities and interest change. Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse.

29th Aug 2013, 22:45

"You will notice less interior leg room"

The wheelbase was 117.7 inches, but some trunk space was lost.

30th Aug 2013, 11:10

I believe it is correct that the problematic 4.1 liter V-8 in this generation of Eldorado can be replaced (without too much modification) by the Oldsmobile 307 V-8. I know that this is possible to do in rear wheel drive Cadillacs burdened with the 4.1, and that Toronados and Rivieras of the same platform as the Cadillac came standard with the 307. Can anyone confirm or dispute this?

3rd Sep 2013, 21:42

Yes, replacing the HT4100 with an Olds 307 is a simple and straightforward conversion. They both use the same transmission and some of the same accessories. Plus, unlike the larger V8s, you won't have to make any modifications to the engine compartment to fit in the engine.