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I owned a road going Evo, but last year I had the honour of driving an Evo with exactly the same spec as the WRC Rally Car on a tarmac stage on a Rally School Training event.
With the aid of a high pressure turbo the car had 300bhp and accelerated to 60 from a standing start in 3.1 seconds! And I kid you not, it was scary stuff!!!!
Put your foot down at 50mph in 2nd gear and find yourself riding in the back seat.
How are the Japanese so good to gain all this performance from a car with half the power of some supercars!
I bet the insurance is steep? What is its group rating? It sounds like a real scream of a car!
I wish these Japanese car firms would stop lying about the performance times of these vehicles.
See 0-100-0 special in Autocar '99 and you will see an Extreme version of the Evo VII packing a 'supposed' 350 BHP only managed 0-60 in 5.2 secs when a standard 280 BHP Evo is said to be 4.4secs!
The old ones are still the best.
ie. My 300 BHP Escort Cosworth which slaughters 22B's and Evo 6's regularly on the A1.
COME AND HAVE A GO IF YOU THINK YOU ARE FAST ENOUGH!!!???
Funny, 300hp cosworth beating a Mitsi, don't think so mate.
And as for the 22B, I doubt you've ever even seen one.
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I second that, I had a 280bhp MR2 Turbo, that WAS 0-60 in 5.4 seconds, I had a little race with My mates standard EVO and it cained me all over the place (on the A1)
My car used to eat cosworths every day, an Evo is a VERY, VERY quick car mate.
Cossi drivers!!??
Cossie drivers are jealous of Evos (see message above as proof) and are living in the past. Welcome to the 21st century and buy yourself a proper car. The Evo 5/6/7`s are untouchable.
I think the Cossie driver is talking rubbish. If he canes Evo's on the A1 he must be doing 150mph plus. Which is stupid on a busy road!
If he was racing one on a B road he would not have a chance as the acceleration out of corners is ferocious. And the handling limit is well after the drivers.
I am saying this after been a passenger in a EVO 5.
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"Put your foot down at 50mph in 2nd gear and find yourself riding in the back seat"... my car used to have seats like that.
I think that the reason why Japanese cars go real fast is because:
A) They have very little structural steel in them, therefore very little weight (we all know what it's like having 3-4 people in a car, and how much performance goes out the window), so their aim is to design a car that's light, but with just enough steel, to hold it all together.
B) The high performance engines are pushed right to the limit, so they go quick, but they also blow quick.
The Cossie driver does not have a clue what he is on about!
I have just purchased a Subaru Impreza Turbo and although I would have the Cossie for dinner I know I don't stand a chance against the EVO.
When it comes down to pure performance and handling the EVO has it in bucket loads. It is so raw that it is only built for one thing.
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Yeah, the evo is a quick car, but where is the fun in a car
that has all the gadgets to prevent driver error i. e yaw control ect. give me a tuned lancia integrale evo2.
Just as good round the bends and to 60, but heaps more fun!!!
Yeah about the integrale - turbo lag or what!
Sorry, but the EVO cars are the donkeys danglies (as they would say in all those tacky teenage pimply car magazines).
I have an RS4 and although quick its handling is none existent (neutral to understeer) - not for the discerning driver. I have it in mind to find a second hand evo 6 and 'tweak' it as much as possible.
As far as the electronic assistance goes what is wrong with that - it means more fun on the public highway whilst attempting some crazy stunts. The evo 6 may not be to everyones taste, but its crazy styling and promise of more performance through tuning stimulates my interest.
Oh come on!! styling?? the evo 6 looks like it took a swift detour through halfords "tuning" section with all those silly spoilers an wat not!! a black one looks like darth vaders helmet!!! plus, word of warning, the mitsi will not be worth that much after a few years thanks to its constant model evolution. whereas a low mileage integrale or even escort cosworth will still hold value. e. g integrale evo dealer's collection with 20 000km will sell for £25000 no joke. escort cosworth with 10 000 miles will sell for bout £19-20000. plus they are proper classics and with a few quid spent on the engine, they will keep pace with the evo.
I rest my case.
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Now Now children! Handbags at 10 paces!
My cars faster than yours, ooooohhhh.
Bring em all to a track day, and see how you do against my Noble m12 GTO... see ya!
Yo noble, you can't compare a noble m12 with a 2.0l engine.
Go race with a Citroen CV2 instead!
Shame.
"an Extreme version of the Evo VII packing a 'supposed' 350 BHP only managed 0-60 in 5.2 seconds when a standard 280 BHP Evo is said to be 4.4secs!"
The standard EVO 6 0-60 is about 4.8. However quoting BHP is useless, esp in rally cars. The garage that look after my EVO also rally an EVO3 and that is 290 BHP and over 400 lbs of torque. This WRC spec may have only had 300 BHP, but could well be pushing 450 lbs of torque or maybe more. However, with a top speed of about 120 MPH, it wouldn't be too hard to get past one on the motorway :)
"ie. My 300 BHP Escort Cosworth which slaughters 22B's and Evo 6's regularly on the A1. "
The reason I doubt this is because EVOs and 22Bs are still quite rare to see on the road. You might have had a race against one that wasn't racing you, but I doubt you "regularly slaughter" them.