29th Nov 2008, 18:24


It was brand new and I expected the axles to last the life of the car. I also expected the transmission to last more than 141,000 miles. It is old now, but I only owned the car for six years, and dependability (or lack thereof) was the predominate reason for trading it on a Ford Escort.

29th Nov 2008, 21:29

Yes - I hear the new GM vehicles come with "Yellow Phone Books" factory installed for your seating pleasure.

30th Nov 2008, 20:19

The 1989 LeMans was engineered and built in Korea by Daewoo. GM badged it as a Pontiac, marketed it in North America and provided parts and service support. If you're looking to blame the engineers for a job poorly done, blame the Koreans who designed the thing.

1st Dec 2008, 14:51

True - but it was still a GM.

1st Dec 2008, 18:03

I would have thought you would step up to a Mercedes, but you went to an Escort? I had a 1990 Bonneville, sold at 150,000 miles, exceptional Pontiac, and I eventually moved up to a 2002 Corvette manual (6 spd), the logical progression up.

2nd Dec 2008, 15:51


I agree with comment 1st Dec 2008, 14:51.

I would have like a Mercedes, but I had a kid on the way and thought a cheap wagon would be the way to go. I also wanted to be sure that if it had been crap, I would have saved enough on the initial price to try again with another make.

Almost a decade later (as I started this practice with my LeMans), it has paid off.

9th Jul 2009, 20:01

Your Escort (if you got rid of it) is probably still running around with another owner.

The LeMans - a rust heap in a car dump.

21st Jul 2009, 21:03

<<"So what would you say about a Pontiac Vibe? Is it a "GM" or a Toyota?">>"

Now it's a Toyota since the Vibe got killed.