19th Dec 2022, 22:23

Fair enough, but could you provide a link to the information on the LeMans flaw? I couldn't find much about it. I know it was a long time ago, but I hope people took appropriate legal action at the time. A design flaw on something as simple and important as brakes seems shocking even for 1989/90.

20th Dec 2022, 18:17

When I paid for a full brake replacement on my 1990 LeMans in 2001, the mechanic told me the system was flawed. The brakes were shot not long after the full replacement job (rotors & disks). He told me it was due to the design.

20th Dec 2022, 18:19

This was my review on that car, long before this current discussion started http://www.carsurvey.org/review_121189.html

21st Dec 2022, 19:48

Thanks for the update. I see you gave the car a fair review and I agree, I wouldn't keep a car very long especially once you know it has a flaw.

Usually though through reviews on here or elsewhere you do hear about a car's bad points, and flaws or recalls, even back in the day before the internet like on other sources such as magazines or whatever, I just don't remember this particular one.

22nd Dec 2022, 21:23

Reading through others reviews on this site regarding this car from the late 80s era, there are a few that call out the brake issues or constant pad replacements. Most likely you're not going to find any Google information about any of the issues that came with these models. These cars were not huge sellers like the Citation family of cars which also had a massive amount of brake problems and recalls to go with it that were well publicized. This particular car should have never even used the "LeMans" nameplate. A far cry from the body on frame rear drive predecessors that they replaced. Pontiac should bring back the "Astre" name for these low budget vehicles. Build quality was about the same.

23rd Dec 2022, 19:24

Unless Pontiac somehow arises from the grave it has been in for the last 10+ years, it won't be bringing back the name "Astre", or any other model names, ever.

24th Dec 2022, 17:29

Very good, now tell that to whoever edits these comments because that's not how I originally wrote it.

24th Dec 2022, 21:33

It is likely they meant to say "should have brang back the Astre name". With the wealth of information that the comment provides, I'm pretty sure that the writer is well aware that Pontiac has been defunct since 2010.