2002 Renault Clio Extreme from UK and Ireland - Comments

Guys, can some-one post a picture of were exactly this black box is at the back of the engine? I have idle problems for months now, it's doing my head in.

Cheers, Gary.

Hi, can anyone help?

The wiring loom light has been coming on in the car intermittently when slowing down at a snail pace, sometimes causing the car to over rev and then sometimes stall - - it can't decide to stay switch on or cut off.

Took it to my local dealer and it said 'map sensor' fault, changed the map sensor but still doing it.

Have checked the black box behind the engine and the black outer rubber has all worn. My friend wiggled all the wires and now the wiring loom light is permanently on, in one way least I know the fault is around them wires.

Can anyone help or give me any suggestions before it costs me loads :(

Thanks.

Gary, give me your email I will send you a photo of the box and the problem it can cause.

I have had the idle problem for 5 months and took it to Renault specialist, and their diagnostic picked it up straight away and problem solved.

Before I had taken to normal garage, and their diagnostic was not sensitive enough and came up with map sensor, which they changed, but no better so refunded me.

Email me on angie181077@aol.com

Clio Dynam 1.2 2003.

Got the same problems as described in some of the posts. Toxic fume warning light on after the electrical warning light came on, causing me to crawl along the dual carriageway. I am going to try some of the suggestions here.

Just wanted to add my name to the growing number here of discontent.

Jonny.

jonathanmcnelis@hotmail.co.uk

Hi. I have experienced the same problem with my 1.2 16v 53 plate Clio. The cutting out and loss of power. I had my car put on the diagnosis and it came back with the throttle position sensor (TPS). I had it changed and now working 100%.

Also all the engine warning light and electric fault lights come on, but this is the only problem that the machine came back with, so I hope I helped with some queries.

Hi all, I have had my Renault Clio Dynamique 1.2 16v 51 reg, since it was a year old and the last month the emissions light has intermittently been flashing and loosing power.

It is currently in the garage having the coil pack and leads replaced. Reading this website I fear this is not going to solve the issue.

Can anyone give me more details on this black box and what I need to do to it to correct the matter!

Natalie.

Hi Natalie.

I have had the same problem with the Clio cutting out / idle problems.

The first garage did the same changed the coil pack however this only sorted the problem for about a week (cost about £80) Decided to ring my local Renault dealer; they said they would run a diagnostic on the car and they would charge £70 !!! ONLY to put a wire into my car and check to see what the problem is, NOT actually to sort the problem out.

I then phoned round a couple of local garage, and this guy said he just got a new diagnostic machine in, so I left it in with him and got it back the same day. Turn out to be a fault in the lambda sensors on the car. They clean/refilled and tested the car and hopefully will be fixed. They charged £90 for the labour. They also cleaned inside and outside the car, which was nice considering it was covered in grass from golf.

Hope this helps!

Gary.

I have the same problem. It is a 51 plate 1.2 litre. Engine cuts out, light comes on and revs oscillate. Happened 3 years ago, I took it to a Renault dealer, they charged £260 for a new throttle body and re-set something (sorry can't remember what).

However, it happened again the other day on the motorway and had to get towed. Garage couldn't work out what was wrong with it, but it did make it back to London from Wales and is running fine, but I'm a bit uneasy driving it.

It seems there may be more than one solution? Glad to see I'm not the only one, can Renault not do anything about this?

Thanks for the advice, but I think the garage said they had cleaned it all up. At the moment my car is still currently in the garage, having already had to have the catalytic converter replaced, the wiring loom, crank shaft sensor, and now the injector loom. Costing me approx £600 already and they have just called to say that "it is running better, but not for long", meaning it's still not right, and that the plugs are blackened so they now have suggested the piston rings! When is this all going to end... I will soon have a brand new engine! Does anyone have anymore ideas... can't be any worse than the monkey's playing with my car at the moment!

Natalie.

Just thought I'd add to the comments already here.

Thiis is probably the worst car I have ever owned. 1.2 Clio Dynamique.

Since new the engine has cut out, both windows have actually fallen down into the doors three times now, then the engine management system has been reset so many times I have lost count. Each time I'm charged as they try to sort it, and a few days, or if I'm lucky months later, it's back.

Today, M4, it's back, and this time emissions light. Great.

Thought I'd share the love. Never buy one of these cars if you don't have one!

Stuart.

That sounds terrible! Wondering if I should get rid of my car now it's working! Yeah, but apparently there are 2 of those O2 sensors in the car and he swapped them around!

Hi guys.

Very quickly my story is yet to come and I will try and post it up tomorrow if I have time - it's long.

I have a 51 plate 1.2 Renault Clio Dynamique and have had this problem on and off, and just not been brainwashed into Renault's ridiculous prices.

To give you a bit about my story, this is what happens. I can turn on and ignite the car no problem, it starts OK, very low and rough idling, up and down the rev meter goes, to clear the fault I have to keep my foot on the accelerator, keeping it above 3000 revs for about 15 seconds, then it clears and idles fine.

So as soon as I stop, the clutch goes in, change gear, revs drop right down, don’t idle, straight to 0 and stalls. So the only way I struggle to keep it going is to stop and quickly catch it before it drops and stalls. So this is on-going, had numerous things, will explain tomorrow.

Took it to the Renault dealer, to see if finally they could find something. I knew beforehand exactly what they were going to check; the black box - this has been off my car as soon as I purchased the car 4 years back now, and never had any chaffing on it. Never.

Anyway, took it in first thing, spoke to them, told them what’s happening, I said I want a diagnostic and code reading. So OK off I go, assume it's Renault, they will do premium service other than most small garages. I get a phone call at 12. To say hello, we have found the problem, it seems it’s the ECU wiring loom, I was laughing to myself at this. They said we will need to order the part, it's £650 + VAT and Labour not included. OK say I, wasn’t going to get this done, as I knew there wasn’t anything wrong with it. No chaffing from the black box, as the black isn’t there. Answer me that??

So then I go back, pick up car, I do not get any diagnostic report, no proof of what they have done. I paid £70 and nothing. I had to demand from the service and dealer manager for them.

So I go back to work, and after work I have a nosy on the net about this part, a standard part, loads of people saying they need it and has done nothing. So I opened my bonnet and what do I find, a vandalised wiring loom, a cut through black electrical tape, showing the wires chaffed, this was not done before as the black box has been on it. Rang dealership straight back, weren’t interested, they didn’t do anything; I can see that, yes you did. Anyway went in next day they denied it all, until I spoke to the engineer, yes he did do it to show me where it was the fault. So then they also provided me a safety check ticked it all off as safe, remember they have cut into my wiring loom that controls the car. More to come. For a temp easy fix, buy some WD40, unplug your ports and spray and generous amount in the ECU ports thoroughly. The WD40 prevents moisture getting into them. Take keys out first though. Still having problems.

PS FOR ANYONE WILLING TO HELP ME GET THIS PROPERLY LOGGED AS A RECALL, PLEASE CONTACT ME ON 07857112242 OR ARRONBORSON@GMAIL.COM. RENAULT CUSTOMER SERVICES ARE HOPELESS. WHEN I SPOKE TO THEM ABOUT THIS, THEY SAID THEY HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THIS FAULT AND THEY THINK THESE TYPES OF FORUMS ARE ALL LIES. THEY THINK THIS IS MADE UP. SO AFTER 3 MONTHS OF LOGGING A CALL WITH THEM, STILL NOT HEARD ANYTHING. THE REASON WHY THEY DID THE BONNET CATCH LETTER THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE GOT WAS BECAUSE OF WATCH DOG. PLEASE CONTACT ME, MAYBE WE CAN GET A PETITION OR ENOUGH PEOPLE TO GET THEM TO FINALLY FIX SOMETHING.

ARRON.

Hi all, My car 1.2 16v 2001 is currently booked in for a new ECU on the 24th Sep... but after reading comments I don't know what to do. When driving, from turning the car on, I have the light in the middle of the dash constantly on... another light in the bottom right hand corner, which I believe to be the engine management light constantly on. The car cuts out every time I come to a stop and now more frequently when I put my clutch down!!! I hate it, it's unsafe and an accident just waiting to happen... I am expecting a bill in the region of £1000 for a car only worth £2000 in good condition!!! Can anyone help??? How do we get Watchdog involved???

Email is Vicky1301@hotmail.co.uk... thanks x.

I have owned a 1.2 16v Expression from new in 2002. Over the last few months I have spent hundreds of pounds trying to get the stalling problem sorted. The car sometimes, momentarily misfires when pulling off or slowing down. If you are unlucky, it stalls and can be a pig to get started again. So far had MAF, TDC sensor, 2 sets of coils and a full top end wiring loom, and yes it still does it. Not sure what to do next, any suggestions? Jon.

It's a good job I found this site, as I had agreed to buy a Clio which was for my daughter. It had the SERV light on, but was told that it just needed to be extinguished after a service.

Googled this, and came to the site and found this lot. I had left £50 deposit, but then backed out of the deal and told the seller to keep to £50. I am so glad that I did not buy one of these, and consider myself lucky to escape so cheaply.

I had looked at another Clio and noticed a metal lid lying on top of the engine, I now know that this was the lid to the dreaded black box.

How Renault can get away with this is beyond me, they should be exposed for what they and their incompetent dealers are!