1st Jan 2008, 04:54

A VXR would easily out handle a 182 thanks to the lotus suspension. Mines been lowered, strut braces and LSD fitted. It's more than a match for my mates Focus RS round a back road, and faster down a dual carriageway, and they are both superior to the Renault in every single way; 0-60 in 7.1 seconds doesn't qualify as a hot hatch.

1st Jan 2008, 19:47

Whatever you say mate. I'm not getting into a willy waving contest on a public website. But I was talking about handling, not grip.

All I would say is, how much does your VXR owe you including mods, and how does this compare to the 5k your mate paid for his 182? You're not comparing like for like.

2nd Jan 2008, 13:47

Well actually it was a 182 owner not comparing like for like. VXR's are in a higher performance class, not too much, but definitely higher.

8th Mar 2008, 12:42

Please don't bother chipping your 182- it will not live up to your expectations. The induction and exhaust systems are also hard to improve on, best gains are from throttle bodies and cams, but that is much more money.

The best way to modify a 182 is to get a good set of dampers and take out the back seats. Job done.

7th Jul 2008, 19:17

If you chipped to 200 bhp, it might handle like that VXR.

But I could be wrong.

20th Jul 2008, 13:06

A VXR would easily out handle a 182? The VXR is one of the worst cars for handling; everyone knows that too much power through the front wheels means you just can't put the power down when you need it. What I mean is you just end up wheel spinning.

10th Sep 2008, 19:16

200 bhp is the max for fwd cars; over that is just silly.

Why do you think an F1 car is RWD?

Why do think a Lotus Elise is RWD?

The list goes on.

Yes, Nissan Skylines are good as well, and cars like that.

So if you want more than 200bhp, why have a FWD car?

So I can see why the Cup is 182 and the Honda Civic is 200bhp; why didn't Honda go over 200 bhp.

Makes you think.

And before you say the Honda Civic can't go over 200 bhp, yes they can, look at the The Aerial Atom vvti supercharged Honda Civic engine Type R.

11th Sep 2008, 17:01

That what I mean; over 200 bhp and you have to have computer crap on FWD cars, and it will go wrong after time; it's just a con so you have to take it back to the main dealer.

That's why I would have a RWD over 200 bhp or four wheel drive car.

ECUs are crap on a good day, and when something goes wrong, you need it reseting.

But most cars have got ECUs now.

11th Sep 2008, 19:11

I can't see the new Focus RS 300 bhp with RevoKnuckle handling as well as the Lotus Elise, but we will have to wait and see.

21st Sep 2008, 12:17

Just been out in my friends 182. Did a few 0-60 tests, 6.1 was best and 8 was the slowest. Seems quicker without the ESP on as long as you have good clutch control, ie. don't allow to much wheel spin. Best time with ESP (inc TC) was 6.6. We did the tests with a digital stop watch, so accurate enough.

8th Mar 2009, 16:20

Hey all, I got a 2005 Clio Cup on Thursday for my 24th, and it's been back already because when I park it in a tight spot on full lock, it feels like it's either slipping or something's loose on the front wheels.

Has anyone had this problem, as am gonna ring the garage back up tomorrow and play hell with them after they said nothing is wrong with it. The car puts a big smile on my face; a lot better than my Ford ST I swapped it for.

Any help soon would be great, thanks.


3rd May 2009, 11:42

The Ford RevoKnuckle is a revision of the suspension that Renault use in the R26 and R26.R.

Renault are fuming as Ford skimmed around the patents that Renault had for the suspension. Saying that, the R26.R pulls 2 seconds a lap from the new Focus RS at Bedford and humped the VXR round the ring.

If the VXR fanboys want to compare cars, compare the correct machines. Once again, Renault wins. You can go home now...

6th Jul 2010, 08:59

I've got a 300+ BHP Mk1 Focus RS, and it will keep up with AWD and RWD no problem. The only problem is in the wet!

19th Apr 2013, 11:16

I used to have a Clio 182. Good handling and chassis, but straight line performance is not cracking. My mate's ZR160 could keep up.