11th Jan 2006, 11:05
Lots more torque? Lots more weight too. And I don't think MG's are the last word in build quality... Why not go and buy a BMW 330D eh?
12th Jan 2006, 07:15
Please don't compare the ZS180 to the Clio 182. As there is no comparison! Clio is a proper performance car and the ZS180 is a kitted up Rover 45 rep mobile.
The Clio would leave the MG standing in ANY situation regarding speed/handling.
14th Jan 2006, 06:24
Who really cares how fast it is above 100, unless you live in Germany? Not me, that's for sure. Anyway, I've gone up to 130 mph and it pulled quite well I thought up to about 120. After that the aerodynamics come into play and its not so hot, but what do you expect from a short little car like that?
Personally I love mine - performance between 0-100 mph is truly excellent for a 2.0 NA car.
16th Jan 2006, 06:09
Changing the subject...
I have had my Clio 182 for about a year now and always have a problem with its steering lock/turning circle. For example, full lock on and it still probably needs a 3 point turn to get round. Does anyone else have this problem? Is it because I have had the cup suspension pack added or is that just me being a girl? Seriously, it really annoys me as its super to drive in every other way. Its due for its first service soon (done nearly 13K) so maybe I just need the tracking looked at??? Comments welcome...
17th Jan 2006, 16:41
The turning circle is quite poor, that is a feature of almost any sporty car. It's a compromise that I'm willing to put up with...
23rd Jan 2006, 15:35
To the guy who has a steering problem lock to lock. I'd seriously consider going down to your dealer and get the steering geometry checked and re-adjusted. They will also do a four wheel alignment test on a opti-flex machine. Hope your 182 is still under warranty as it costs around £700 to carry out this. Lock to lock should be 2.5 turns. This standard on any 182. Anyway hope that you get it sorted out.
26th Jan 2006, 02:03
Reference the comment on 23rd Jan and going back to the dealer. Save yourself a journey and don`t bother, the turning circle is awful on the 182 and it`s a well known fact. It was featured in many reviews when they first came out and having had my 182 since March 04 I can confirm it`s normal. It`s annoying a little, but it`s not a problem.
Mine also smokes a lot when cold, something else which is a feature. Neither of them spoil what is a superb car and fully deserves all the fantastic reviews it has received over the last 2 years.
29th Oct 2006, 02:37
What a load of tosh, the 182 is a roller skate!!!
The MGZS180 isn't a tarted up Rover 45, it in fact is a very different beast altogether.
29th Oct 2006, 09:40
182s don't smoke, its steam!
The backboxes collect condensation when the car is driven steadily, and then when you floor it past 5000 revs, the water is blown out. It often covers the rear windscreen and the car behind need to use the wipers!
As for the MGZS Owner on here, the cars are not comparable, one is arguably the best hot hatch of its generation built by the F1 Champions for 2 years running, and the other was so bad the company folded and nobody cared!
14th May 2007, 09:52
The turning circle is terrible on all the Clios not just 182. My diesel only had 185 tyres and it was like turning a bus.
14th Jun 2007, 14:23
REgarding the turning circle of the renault clio 182. It is restricted by having extra stops fitted because of the larger diameter and wider wheels, which would foul the bodywork if the steering rack was allowed to extend to the normal Clio limits.
31st Aug 2007, 09:44
This is all interesting reading! I have just bought a 182 (04) after test driving other hot hatches in its class, Leon Cupra, Civic Type R etc. The Clio was by far the most fun and I thought the quickest too. I have had the car 2 weeks and so far very pleased with it. I have had one issue with the suspension under the nearside wheel arch creaking when turning full right lock. I have taken it back to the dealer and am in the process of hassling them to fix it! I agree that the turning circle is small compared to my Girlfriends normal Clio. I also agree that when cold the car drives like it has a rev limiter turned on! but this only lasts a few minutes then it comes to life... I'm not complaining, when I wake up it takes ages to get up to normal running conditions! I think that for the money you can't get a better performing car. Handling is superb, acceleration is good, the boost at 5000rpm always puts a grin on my face! I would reconsider the trade for an MG, they are well known for their cheap production and the K series engines are prone to HG failure. Stick with the clio! Take it to a tuning specialist and have it chipped, £250 retune will improve fuel consumption and add an additional 10 BHP.
That's about it... thank you and goodnight!
29th Dec 2007, 08:48
Yes its defo steam come in and out of your back boxes. I have had my 182 about 3 weeks now and there used to be a lot of steam coming out. I bought it off an old couple who had it from new. As I am 19, I have given my car a bit of death over these last couple weeks and no steam no more.
I do have one question if any body could help me. When my car is running, I have a knocking noise when the clutch is pushed down and put in first. The main dealer said try checking my gear box mounting, but they seem fine... any body got any other ideas???
29th Dec 2007, 18:41
Fair play to you, but I dread to think what your insurance bill is on a 182 at 19 yrs old!!
30th Dec 2007, 11:48
182 is a slow car. My brother just bought one and my Astra VXR completely annihilates it. The interior is awful; it has about as much luxury as a brazilian slum. Once you get past 60 it's like someone has put a giant sail on top of the car; the acceleration just seems to stop. I absolutely hate it; his argument is that it was a good deal for £5000, but I think it was a waste.
30th Dec 2007, 17:55
Lol - the 182 was never about luxury or speed. It's a B-road car and will make any Astra including your VXR look completely daft in the back lanes. You can slag off the French all you want, but nobody does FWD handling like them.
Besides which, if you want to compare like for like, what does 5k buy you in terms of performance Astras? Not a VXR that's for sure.
Outside of a straight line drag race, a 182 would be more than a match for your VXR, and would even argue would better it on the really challenging stretch of B-road. LEss power but far better balance, feel and composure when pressing on hard.
But if all you care about is straightline speed, I suppose at least you bought the right car.
4th Jan 2006, 11:34
What a shame you've had this experience!-I have a 182 with both Cup Packs and have had it for over a year and (touch wood) have had no problems with it at all-OK it's not the most solid car, but it is a joy to drive and EVO magazine have said it's the best Hot Hatch of all time-Autocar also love it and so did Jeremy Clarkson. I have to say I love it too!