2nd Jul 2002, 09:33

I know what you mean, the Leon looks and drives good, but when it starts going wrong. and it will, you are going to get very frustrated.

I just sold mine and I will never buy a Seat (or any other Volkswagen product) again.

3rd Jul 2002, 17:36

I am truly sorry to hear about all the trouble with your Leons. As you can see from my previous letter, I am thrilled with my Toledo TDiSE. Not even the slightest rattle. I only hope that they keep up the assembly quality. You can see from this website, that most people have been pleased with thier Seats. One can be very unlucky and I hope you kick up absolute hell with your dealer!

I owned Volkswagens before and I certainly got excellent reliability with two of them. The one before that, I was cheated when buying second-hand. It turned out to be rubbish.

I wish you both all the best of luck.

12th Jul 2002, 03:14

I understand that you are happy with your Toledo, but your Toledo was built in Belgium, where the quality standards are much higher than in Spain.

The Leon is build in Spain, and that makes a hell of a difference.

If you are not convinced yet, and you can read German, please try www.Seat-Leon.de and look in the forum; you will be shocked.

16th Jul 2002, 10:44

I am very much convinced. I only wish the boss of VW would do something about it. The new chairman wants Seat to be at the cheap end of the sporty segment. People who own Audis, buying Seats for their children. I read that in one of his many interviews on the internet.

21st Aug 2002, 17:13

It's interesting that the Toledo was apparently more reliable than the Leon. Nowadays all SEATs except the Alhambra are manufactured at Martorell (according to Seat's website).

I have a Leon Cupra and it is a very solid car. So far nothing has gone wrong (in 3 months!), and if it does, well I will take it back to the dealer and get it fixed. That's what warranties are for.

At the end of the day I guess if you want reliability as the primary reason for buying a car you wouldn't naturally choose a SEAT, but for me I'm prepared to suffer a little unreliability for a bit of Latin flair!

3rd Sep 2002, 15:48

It is only recently, that they transfered the Toledo from Belgium to Spain.

11th Sep 2002, 05:10

So that is the end of the quality of the Toledo than, my wife had a German build Arosa (1998) and the quality was good, now she has the new model build in Spain and it is bad.

Seat wants to compete with Alfa and in the category poor build quality they have won.