6th Oct 2005, 17:10
Some very constructive and well put comments. Mustang is muscle so should not be compared in the same league.
11th Oct 2005, 13:35
Don't forget to mention that you'd be really straining the clutch on the WRX to beat a more powerful car off the line. Most of the acceleration loss is from wheel-spin on the rear drive or front drive cars which you obviously don't get on the WRX. The clutch takes the full brunt of the engine's power in that case and it is really hard on it. To drag these cars against Mustangs and Vette's will get costly if you really launch it as hard as you have to in order to have a chance against them. Most of the time you'd still lose after 2nd gear though unless the other driver can't shift... These cars are just too short on tourge and HP against 300-400 HP cars to make a real good match. I have owned both and can tell you honestly.
16th Feb 2006, 05:42
The above comments about Mustang vs WRX are laughable.
The WRX is a very quick car in a straight line, but that is not all that it is about. Its fantastic AWD chassis means that it will easily outhandle a mustang as soon as the twisties start and say goodbye when the rain arrives.
I doubt that on a back road there are too many cars that can keep up with the Rex, Mustang included.
At the end of the day, as with any performance car, the driver of such a car should take care. Higher limits it may have, but physics defeats ALL performance cars!
4th Jun 2006, 07:32
Laughable comments? The 2002-2005 WRX in stock form is far from a great handler. The awful Potenza RE92s the car comes with may very well be the worst OEM tire ever produced.
As for the comment about the rain, I'm guessing you have never driven a WRX with RE92s in the rain. I once lost traction with all 4 tires going straight up a hill doing about 70 on the highway. That has never happened to me in any FWD or RWD car, but then again, none of them had the RE92 series tire on them.
When you start adding suspension mods and decent tires and such, yes, the WRX can be made a rather formidable handling machine. But stock in dry weather, I don't even think a well-driven WRX could keep up with a well-driven Mustang GT in the twisties, never mind out-handle it. The 2005- Mustang GT, despite the anti-domestic bias out there, is a very good handling car.
6th Jun 2006, 13:12
Most of this confusion is being caused by the fact that my dad's car is a 1998, and probably does not have those crappy tires. While maybe they changed the standard ones on newer models.
12th Jul 2006, 19:25
I'll take a Subie over a Mustang anyday.
With certain models putting out 300 hp and ft/lbs, coupled with its amazing AWD system, this car can easily outhandle a Mustang and kill it off the line most likely.
17th Jul 2006, 11:12
I'll take the Mustang over the Scoobie. Scoobies are a good car, don't get me wrong, but so common and damn ugly to look at. If I want out and out performance, I'll take the drag car and say good bye. 0-60 in 3 seconds and more bhp than 2 scoobies put together.
Thanks, but no thanks!
19th Jul 2006, 11:07
0-60 in 3 seconds? NO. The Evo MR 400 only does it in 3.6 seconds, and that's with 405bhp and AWD. The Mustang's a nice car and powerful, but I thought the 0-60 on them was 5.2 seconds. If you tried to do it in 3, you would just get a lot of tyre smoke.
21st Jul 2006, 05:21
Nowhere did I say the Mustang did 0-60 in 3 seconds. Read the comments carefully before you put a comment on my post!!!
22nd Jul 2006, 07:37
Well, it sounds like you're describing the Mustang as a drag car, so what do you mean by drag car? A real drag car will do 0-60 a lot faster than 3 seconds.
Impreza's ugly? That's your opinion, everyone I've spoke to young or old, car enthusiast or not, thinks they're pleasing to the eye.
29th Aug 2006, 18:46
I'm sorry, but the Subi is ugly and the interior is uninspiring. However, it is the only car I have driven after my Mini Cooper 'S' that I liked... and thanks to someone running a red light I've been test driving quite a few sporty cars in that price range. I still love and prefer the MINI, but could tolerate the Subi for its extra space and AWD in snow. The Subi's not as ugly if your inside it looking out.
12th Sep 2007, 22:17
There are fast cars and there are slow cars. Any car can be made "fast" with enough money and effort. To say that one model car is "faster" than another is irrelevant on this site. Is it reliable? Can it survive daily use and not fall apart? Does it operate as it should? Now these are relevant subjects. Save the "mine is faster n yours" stuff for the forums!
7th Feb 2008, 18:59
Again, what people fail to recognize is that the Subaru IS NOT A DRAG CAR and it was never meant to be. If you are out trying to kill Mustangs and Camaros off the line with your extensively modded Subie, you will eventually blow the clutch and probably waste the tranny too. No wheel spin means great force, all on the clutch and tranny. The only place you are beating the Mustang and Camaro guys is to the scrap yard for more parts. Subaru's are well known for their weak transmissions, so modding the car is not the smartest move... unless of course, you get a racing tranny to go with your souped up engine. An upgraded clutch is even worse because then the transmission takes even more abuse. The Mustang or Camaro is fast, reliable performance right out of the box and they are built for off the line sprints. I love Subies, but you have to keep their purpose in perspective or you'll be paying a lot of extra cash for repairs...
21st May 2008, 01:32
I believe most people here are commenting from North American roads point of drive. Over here in Europe, we have twists and turns and A, B, and C roads and if you ever try to follow a Scooby with your tang, you will be in a bad way.
I have both 2005 WRX Prodrive and 2007 tang we call Eleanor. The tang is a good motorway machine, but not in the league of the super Subba.
We also have a E55 AMG 2005 for my missus, and that drives more like the tang, but still not in the Scooby's world.
I will say drive a subaru for what it was made for. I live in London, and also have a place in Conyers, Georgia where I drive a C Class AMG EU import, and must say it eats the vettes and tangs when they try.
22nd May 2008, 02:18
I will advise all believers and non-believers to check out this site, and form a picture in their minds what kind of abuse an EU spec Subaru goes through every day in Europe (weather conditions included).
Now remember the Lambo is an all wheel drive, and so is the Scooby. The only machine that can do almost what the Scooby does in the wet is the Mitsubishi Evo VIII FQ 360; don't get me wrong, the Mit FQ 400 is a lion and its pride in one, but too much power for the weight, and therefore belongs to the aircraft industry, because you have to be a trained fighter pilot to handle the bugger.
I suggest most people here that have doubts about the Subaru, should take a trip to Europe and test drive a few stock Prodrives here. I can assure you guys and girls, life will be different afterwards. Maybe the Scoobys in the US are setup in a way that the cops have a fighting chance. Ask any cop any where in the world what happens when they come across a proper Scooby; they worry and so should they. Remember German cops have 911 Turbos and Merc AMGs, and UK cops have Mitsubishi Evos and BMW M5. They still panic when they come across a Scooby. You can't imagine how much paper work cops have filled requesting for Scooby catcher, not to mention forms to fill when they damage their already tuned up machines. The all-mighty soundtrack from the boxer decat, cold suction setup will put most chasers into a state of shell shock syndrome. Now that is why you buy a Subaru Impreza WRX STi P4 (the widow maker).