12th Apr 2007, 19:16
Actually, you got one of the MANY that was poorly built. Just look at all the bad reviews on Camry, Highlander, Tundra and Corolla. Only a VERY FEW Toyotas can now be even remotely considered reliable. Sorry you got taken in by a myth.
13th Apr 2007, 13:41
The number one vehicle in America is Ford F series trucks and has been for many years. Was your planet...earth?
13th Apr 2007, 21:12
Toyotas quality started to go down once they started major assembly operations in North America. I know a guy whos newer corolla had an electrical problem nearing 1K to fix.
Why do you think they make all Lexus vehicles in Japan? B/c they don't want to mess with their premier brand and risk quality issues.
14th Apr 2007, 12:36
Given Ford lost the cost of a Mustang a minute in 2006, its F series obviously did little to stem their losses no matter how many they sold.
Maybe they can come out with more gas guzzlers with substandard safety features to boost their profits. Sure to be a hit with gas prices continually going up.
17th Apr 2007, 21:26
People who argue that the Ford F-150 has "substandard safety features" have obviously never seen a Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla that was hit by an F-150. I did. One dead Honda driver, one totally unhurt F-150 driver who DROVE his truck home from the accident.
18th Apr 2007, 09:27
People who base their safety beliefs on ONE accident obviously have never seen ALL the data that CLEARLY state that you are significantly more likely to be injured or killed in an F150 than in a Civic or Corolla. In fact, one poster on this site stated how her husband was killed when the cab of his F150 simply detached from the chassis and rolled several times after he collided with another CAR. No one was injured in the car.
But why let reality spoil things, eh?
13th May 2007, 18:05
As today, May 13 2007, Toyota is the #1 automaker on the planet. GMC is second, no Ford, there must be a reason..
14th May 2007, 11:10
Could it be that people are driven by exhorbitant fuel prices? Seems a likely scenario. By the way the Ford F Series has historically been the the number one vehicle sold in America... as far as cars I feel fortunate to still be able to drive a domestic luxury vehicle instead of being herded in with the masses.
19th May 2007, 20:09
No one cares about the sales figures of that piece of flimsy garbage F-150. Toyota is the number ONE automaker in the world. Get used to it because it's going to continue. All you domestic guys have left in the bag is to cite sales of ONE particular pickup truck that still, for no good reason, sells fairly well. Toyota will change that with the far superior Tundra in years to come, just as they have now done with their cars and suv's. But I guess the F-150 must be great because of it's 'fully boxed frame'. Don't worry about the fact that the engine, transmission, and every other part of the truck is scrap. Ever follow an F-150 down the road that looks like the whole body is tweaked at some odd angle? As in, you're directly behind the F-150 in moving traffic, but you can see one side of it? I laugh every time. You'll never see a Toyota truck look that pathetic, no matter what kind of abuse you put it through.
21st Oct 2007, 10:35
Addressing the Apr. 17th post:
If a Toyota Tundra collided with a Ford Focus, don't you think the outcome would be the same?
7th Jan 2008, 22:04
Having actually seen a collision between a Focus and a full-sized pickup, I'm not sure I'd be so skeptical of the well-built Focus. Unlike a Civic or Corolla, it did not "crumple" into a mass of mangled metal with the occupants squished into jelly inside. It WAS heavily damaged, but the passenger compartment was surprisingly intact. No one in EITHER vehicle was seriously injured.
9th Jun 2008, 19:41
How did a Toyota Corolla review turn into a Ford F150 conversation? Two completely opposite vehicles from two different markets. People clicked to read this post about a Corolla, not a Ford truck. Nothing comparable!!! No one goes in the market for a Corolla and ends up with a F150.
13th Jun 2008, 11:14
The point about the F-150/Honda collision was to show the huge danger smaller vehicles such as the flimsy Corolla (or Civic) pose when hit by a well-built, larger vehicle.
There is no argument that larger vehicles protect their drivers and passengers FAR better than ANY small, light car can.
Thankfully, higher gas prices are now reducing the number of larger vehicles, making the highways much safer for those of us who drive smaller cars. I KNOW that my small car could NEVER protect me as well as a large truck or SUV. That is simply a fact of physics, and if people would bother to actually READ the fine print of crash test data they would see that there are always disclaimers clearly stating that in crashes with larger vehicles, the smaller vehicle will NOT protect the occupants as well. To argue otherwise is to deny the facts.
I've NEVER seen a major collision between a small car and a large (or even midsize) truck or SUV in which the small car occupants were not killed or seriously injured. The WORST injury I've ever seen to an occupant/driver of a larger vehicle in such a crash was a broken wrist. A good friend of ours struck a large GM SUV head-on in her large German luxury car. In a real twist of irony the CAR flipped over, and the top-heavy SUV did not. Our friend received serious injuries requiring months of painful physical therapy. The SUV driver walked away.
There is just simply no question that you are much, much safer in a larger, heavier vehicle. I try to be very careful and hyper-vigilant when driving my compact car because I KNOW how vulnerable I am in it.
14th Jun 2008, 14:50
I doubt the Toyota truck owner has a new Tundra; more likely an old Tacoma... did you forget the Ford F250 and Silverado Duramax; far more capable, better warranty, more room, better handling, better load carrying better towing.
The Tacoma has the worst seats, rough bouncy ride, and is a teeny truck. You could just go out and buy a little car if you enjoy being cramped. and yes you may save a few pennies at the pump... but why buy a truck if it's limited? There are more trucks than the F150. You may have to work a little harder to buy one, but it's worth every penny to have a fully functional truck. I use mine and use it hard. And it has a far better warranty in writing, not such a weak warranty. The warranty did not close the sale however, it was being fully functional and capable.
I see either buy a small car, or if you remotely even consider a new truck, buy space, strength and practicality. Otherwise it's just a car...
I cannot see the sense in a "halfway" truck.... small little pickups and even the El Camino Ranchero theory does not make sense then or now.
I love the 3/4 ton Diesel full size trucks... stronger drivetrain, bed and towing, which does not strain out the drivetrain like imports would on my applications.
29th Jul 2008, 15:13
Until Toyota returns the Corolla and Camry to Japan, you will continue to see blemishes to a formerly spotless reliability record. When they started letting American workers build them, that's when the trouble truly started. That's why I like my '98 Corolla. It was one of the last of the Japanese Corollas. The Korean cars are catching up in a big way because they're not being built over here yet.
29th Jun 2009, 15:29
I agree that Toyota quality is a myth. My 85yr old father in law bought an 06 Corolla because he swears by these things. However, the power steering failed while he was driving and almost caused an accident. When drying the car with a chamois, the windows move on their tracks. Drive over a dime and you can feel it. The gas mileage is great but when resting on the front fender, my bum caused it to dent in (yes, I know - either a fat arse or thin metal!). I think that in an accident, this thing would fold like a pop can - I hate my family riding in it. A mid-size car is a much better compromise between safety and mileage. If this piece of junk had been made by G.M, they would have said "typical". For some reason, Toyota gets a free ride.
15th Sep 2016, 13:16
Toyota gets a free ride - we've been trying for over a year to get the Takati airbag replaced in a 2006 Corolla as per recall. You can't safely let people ride in the front passenger seat. Because no fragmentation incident has occurred in Canada, we're a low priority. How do you sell a car with this sort of safety defect?