1994 Peugeot 205 STDT from UK and Ireland - Comments

The 205TD is a great car as are the STDT's.

An inter-cooler would be the best idea in improving your stdt still keeping it standard and giving a really good performance boost.

I have a bought an inter-cooler from eBay and did not realise the the connecting hoses are so expensive as are the alloy tubes. Be warned. Great idea, but you need a good wage to finance the project.

Hi All. I've a grey 205stdt and have been well impressed with the comments made in favour of fitting an inter cooler. So, I've mentioned this to "some1 who knows these things" and was turned against the idea. The reason being is simply that the engine has not been designed for the extra power (pistons coming down harder / rising faster) & certain bearings wearing faster as well. I'm just not convinced it's an appropriate modification to make for an engine designed for 70ish bhp.

Anyway, my real reason here, can any1 recommend good alloys for my 205, I still have the originals and am missing the wheel caps off 2 of them. Are the GTI wheels better (as in looks), than the STDT ones? (I live in Ireland & simply don't see 205's anymore... as in none what-so-ever).

Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI wheels look best, and make them handle great.

I used rubber hoses for my intercooler. Still running sweet as a nut 6k miles after install.

Can anyone explain how the intercooler upgrade is fitted in. It looks like the hose between compressor outlet and intake manifold is very short so I can't see how you route an intercooler in between. Any help gratefully received as I'm considering experimenting with a 'home' modification.

You will have to fit a intake manifold designed to have a intercooler on it like from a 306 with the intercooler bolts on top of the manifold. If this would fit due to bonnet space.

Or fit a inlet manifold from a non turbo 205 and fit the intercooler near the front of the car which again is lacking in space. I have heard that some peugeot dealers fitted intercoolers as an option when the cars was new so it is possable how I'm not 100 parcent sure. please let me know how you go on I want to do the same to my STDT.

I drive a green 205 STDT with 57k and am interested in fitting an intercooler as I sometimes find the car lacking in both power and torque, although I love the 50+mpg!!

I have a 1.9 td lump from a 306 and wonder if I could make this conversion using the intercooler and pipes from this engine.

Any comments would be greatly received.

As for which wheels look best on a 205; mine has 306 gti wheels (cyclones) and looks stunning.

I have not been on here for several years and am surprised to see this thread is still going. For all you doubters my STDT has covered almost 35,000 miles since I had the Allard stage 2 ali intercooler fitted. Although the car isn't being used at the moment, it is still as quick and gives just as much pleasure as the day I had it done. I can remember it very clearly. In preparation for having the intercooler fitted I refurbed the whole of the front suspension and brakes all round with new OE parts. It also happened that I needed new tyres so I figured the car would be well prepared for the extra 20-25hp the intercooler mod would give it. Leaving Allardturbosport in Monmouth for the test drive it was instantly noticeable the engine had more power and 'get up and go'. The car felt like new on the way home just run in at 98,000 miles. The foresight to refurb all the suspension and brakes was a good one as it performed very nicely just like a go cart but with a decent ride. Back home a week later it went on a rolling road and gave 98.4 bhp at the wheels. For a car the weight of an empty coke can it has meant it is now pretty nippy. The speedo needle certainly shifts especially in 2nd and 3rd gear accelerations, in fact all gears the acceleration is now excellent and it has a very handy top end which it never had before. Put your foot down at 75-80mph and where before it was starting to run out of breath it really shifts well into three figures.

For all the other philistines out there who have or want to mod and chav these cars - DON'T! There are precious few of them, and the way Peugeot set them up and styled them in the factory was just perfect. Fitting larger wheels and lowering the ride height ruins their balance, ride and poise.

It is difficult to improve upon Peugeot's factory set up of the stdt other than what I have done by fitting a decent intercooler. Allards, who were one of the dealers who use to fit intercoolers to new 205 diesel turbos said this mod was about as far as you could go with the standard engine. Give them their dues it has certainly made the car alot quicker and is well able to keep up with modern day traffic. The economy has remained good and the smile factor is still great.

As regards more power, I wouldn't advise this without stripping the engine and fitting forged pistons, plus being a diesel there are the emissions for the MOT to worry about. What I did to mine is about the best route and most cost effective. If you have an STDT, just drive it and enjoy it!!

Can't comment on using 2nd hand intercoolers from other Peugeot or Citroen models. Suffice to say that they are probably not as efficient as brand new ali intercoolers. You need reinforced silicon or better solid ali pipework to stop the pipes collapsing under vacuum, which I guess may well happen with rubber hosing. The intercooler needs to be mounted low down, just behind and below radiator where it can gets lots of ram cold air, NOT on top of the engine where it's hot.

The standard STDT turbo is a KKK unit, the size I don't know though. Big bore tail pipes and exhausts are a waste of time; they do nothing for performance. Apart from the ali intercooler the rest of my Stdt is totally standard and that's all you need really. Great little car. 50 mpg as well.

Perhaps the only other thing I might do is fit vented discs to the front or if I felt I could justify the further cost and effort a 1.9 GTI rear beam with discs, but I guess there is quite a bit of work involved in this plus one may have to change the servo as well if doing this. Anyway if you're a decent driver you don't need to hammer the brakes as it will go round virtually anything as it is like a go cart.

As to the boaster poster saying he achieved 135mph out of an STDT/DT -dream on.... the car isn't that highly geared and redlines at only 4,800rpm.

These are well pretty cars. Do not chav or mod them. I have seen these cars up for sale in chaved state and they fetch a fraction of the price than if they were still in good standard condition and appearance. they are pretty rare now, in fact, I figure you could easily make your money back if you found a good one and looked after it.

I have to say I agree all the comments of 28 nov 07 the 205 stdt is a great little car and is best left standard, I'm sure peugeot spent millions in the development of styling and handling of the 205 and a fine job they did so why mess with it. My stdt is completly standard other than 306 gti wheels (which were only fitted as I had them and the old stdt wheels were scabby) and it still both handles and performs newer cars and gives 50mpg plus.

Hi! just thinking of getting 205 stdt.what price am I looking at and do they have pas.for wife! cheers.

Yes they came with power steering as standard, as well as electric windows. Some even had ABS (although this is rare as it was an extra cost option). As for cost, I paid £600 for my one owner 55k stdt four months ago, but such low mileages are rare on these cars. I have seen them go for up to £1000 if they have been well looked after.

Cheers!

If you can find an stdt, they're pretty rare now.

Hi people I love the comments, even the guy that put the ESSAY up, OK we heard you bragging about your inter cooler which OBVIOUSLY is far superior to any other inter cooler out there..

I am a proud new owner of a metallic green STDT and I love it. The condition of is not A1 but I plan to restore it too its former glory (body work wise). Engine wise it feels strong at 115K.

Any tips would be apreciated. Thanks

1st of all :

Are the 15" alloys not the same as the 1.9gti?

I am to 1) get under the bonnet for a peace of mind thorough service including belts.

2) Upgrade the rear brakes to disks by possibly a 309 or 1.9gti rear beam with disks still attached and 406 master cylinder..

Also I would like some advice on fitting either 1.9Gti/309 wishbones and or drive shafts. Lower front springs.

And for the gut with brown leather ELBOW pads on his jacket this is for improved handling via wider track and improved aesthetics as the car currently sits ridiculously high

(NOT ALTOGETHER A BAD THING IN LONDON WITH ALL THE SLEEPING POLICEMEN).

To care how your car looks does not equal a chav (unless you have neon lights and wings hanging off it!!

Please guys any tips would really help.

Cheers.

Hi found a stdt 95k, but overheating problem? (cylinder head?) any thoughts? cheers!