17th Jun 2013, 10:53

Here we go again with the "claims". Please learn a new song to sing. I, along with many others, can comment all I want on these Toyota threads, because I along with many others have had some trouble with the model I owned. A RAV-4 having problems at 40k is not a quality vehicle, and please don't tell me I got a "dud"; you have used that term a million times already too.

You can state those so-called top reliability lists a million more times, and they still mean nothing to all of the folks whom have had problems. The quality has fallen indeed, like the above comment says; look it up and live with it. 80% of the cars you listed are from the eras when they built decent cookie-cutter cars.

17th Jun 2013, 11:32

I didn't "hear" that Toyota got worse; I experienced it!

17th Jun 2013, 16:35

I'll say it again, if you want to talk about pulling up a browser, type in these simple words "when did Toyota quality start to decline".

I'm not going to list all the direct links; that would take all day because there are so many.

18th Jun 2013, 05:20

So our family that does not like Toyotas anymore should leave? Well we did! Service after the sale keeps customers. We can also wager that people will not stay blindly loyal when there are many more brands to choose from. Looking down your list, it's mostly decade plus vehicles. The newest ones are the ones presenting the biggest issues.

23rd Jun 2013, 02:15

Having owned Toyota's in the past that decimated my savings with repair costs, I know that quality drop is real.

As for your list of high mileage vehicles, I have owned many domestic vehicles that have matched or exceeded your list with no major problems.

Lastly, I invoke my right of free speech to warn people about a manufacturer that has little regard for your safety.

26th Jun 2013, 19:02

Kind of curious with the one brand and one brand only Toyota family. If you drove into the driveway with another brand, would you be disowned? It is an interesting observation to condemn all other makes with only a single brand mindset. I tend to switch to the latest technology and designs. There is tremendous variety today. It's hard to imagine.