1985 Buick LeSabre Limited Collector's Edition 4- from North America - Comments

15th Nov 2009, 03:16

How can you tell that the exhaust leak is a "slow leak"?

23rd Apr 2010, 08:41

Original poster of the review here. To the above commenter, a slow leak for example is one that you know is there but is hard to find. Mine has a leaking A.I.R. emissions tube and valve on the passenger side of the motor. If you sit long enough, engine running while parked, the inside of the car will start smelling of exhaust. It also makes a tick-tick-tick noise at moderate to hard acceleration, which is easily mistaken by some for sticky valves/lifters or bad/loose main bearings. So that is my "slow exhaust leak."

I did a complete transmission service a couple weeks ago, which included a flush, filter and replacing the Lockup Converter Clutch Solenoid, which was causing my original transmission problems. The old fluid was still clean and fruity smelling.

For anyone with a 200R4 or 700R4 transmission on a GM car or truck, it is a common problem as these vehicles age. The transmission gets tiny fine metal particles floating around after a while, no matter how well cared for it it. Old gunky dirty fluid only makes matters worse. It causes the solenoid to clog and malfunction, locking up the torque converter at low speeds in 2nd gear, which causes very sluggish acceleration. It mimic an early shift when accelerating, and causes a big drop in highway fuel economy. When I fixed mine my highway fuel economy jumped from 18/19 to about 21-24.

And when coming to a stop it will stay locked and try to hold second gear, usually making the car stall. This simple fix has caused many people to do rebuilds when not needed, or send a perfectly good transmission to the junkyard. After a rebuild the solenoid will still malfunction if it isn't replaced.

These transmissions weren't built the greatest from the factory, giving them a bad reputation. There are, however, excellent rebuild kits for them. If done correctly and by a professional, the 200R4 can be made to handle as much torque as the older 350/375/400 models. Some people have even put them behind big blocks and they hold up well if built properly. They are actually becoming very popular as racing transmissions.

The 350/400 models are still a little more durable and less complex, but it's nice to have an overdrive 4th gear in an old muscle car. It's a lot more pleasant to sip fuel at 70 MPH at a low RPM than have your engine screaming at 3000 RPM's with a 3 speed automatic.

20th Dec 2012, 23:18

I have an 82 Park Ave and an 85 LeSabre.

Except for the PA's 350 4bbl, they are twins.

22nd Feb 2014, 20:42

These cars are a gem. I do love my 1985 Buick LeSabre; it's a strong running reliable car. Very smooth, but the 307 Oldsmobile as most mention is the best ever that has been manufactured by GM.

I hope you're still getting your money's worth out your LeSabre, but I'd much rather have the sedan instead; it's a beautiful car as well.

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