20th Nov 2008, 18:58
Nice to see another young Buick fan, however the prices you mention seem very high. $52,000 for an Enclave. I have never seen one over $45K and it was pretty well loaded and I rarely see a Lucerne for much over $42K I live in the Mid-West but I assume MSRP is the same from coast to coast.
It really saddens me to see the current condition of GM. With talk of bankruptcy looming I am left wondering where I will buy my next car. It would be a shame if Buick ceases to exist. Like you, I will never own a Japanese car, I find them far too boring and wonder how they are possibly so popular??
21st Nov 2008, 20:09
I like the current style LaCrosse which will be made through early next year. From what I've seen of the next generation car I don't care for it. Just more of the same trying to mimic Honda and Toyota and looking bland as ever.
24th Nov 2008, 20:26
Considering our luck with GM vehicles, if GM were to go out of business (which I seriously doubt) I will just buy good used ones for the rest of my life. My family just sold a 32-year old Buick with over 270,000 miles on it. It had never had any repairs. Just routine maintenance. We decided to keep our 54-year-old Pontiac a while longer. It's still too new to get rid of.
19th Mar 2009, 23:17
In regards to the above posting, Japanese vehicles are so popular because they last. GM hasn't built a decent car in 15+ years. There are more 30 year-old GM cars on the road than 5 year-old GM cars. Look back at the Caprice, Cutlass, Regal, Delta 88. These cars were built to last and have done just that. Then take a look at the Saturn Ion, Pontiac G5, Chevy Cobalt; these are throw-away cars that make a Hyundai look like a Cadillac. Cheap, cheesy plastic junk is what GM is now known for.
20th Mar 2009, 11:40
23:17 that is just a little far fetched. When is the last time you saw a car from 1979 or older? I know I see very few here in the Mid-West where I live. The average age of an automobile is about 9 years old, and statistically more of them are domestic than imports. GM, as well as every other car manufacturer has greatly improved the reliability of their products since the 1970's. Really, domestic cars are just about equal to the Japanese cars these days. Sure there are some exceptions, but Toyota and Honda have had them too.
22nd Mar 2009, 19:24
11:40 If domestic vehicles are so terrific, why are American automakers on the verge of collapse? Why are new domestic vehicles being offered to buyers at buy-one, get-one free deals?
Import vehicles are subject to extreme taxation upon entering this country, and still cost nearly the same as a vehicle built here. GM can now only move units in China because people there are new to vehicle purchasing and do not understand what separates a good vehicle from a bad one.
Vehicles made here have become progressively worse over time as manufacturers ignore such things as reliability, styling, and performance. Only a big-dollar GM car will offer the same reliability as a cheap import. The point of the previous post was to illustrate the fact GM gave up trying when they discontinued the Caprice. But, by all means, buy American. Mechanics need jobs, too...
23rd Mar 2009, 18:52
I will agree with one point you make, the auto manufacturers all have definitely ignored styling. However, the Japanese are the worst in that respect and always have been, and I think largely to blame for the current style of domestics. Detroit has tried to emulate the look of the imports for years, and have gotten blander and blander to the point you can hardly tell a Buick from a Honda.
To say GM gave up when they discontinued the Caprice says a lot about what you know of the auto industry. The B-Bodies (which were GM's full-size cars from 91-96) were never sales successes. Even the Caprice sold less than 100,000 units in '96 and a majority of them were taxis and police cars. If GM had relied on the Caprice, it would have filed bankruptcy a long time ago.
From what you have written, I assume you are a big car fan as I am (I currently drive a full-size Buick), but I can't understand why you are a proponent of import cars. For the most part their offerings are the complete opposite from traditional American cars like the Caprice and are largely responsible for their demise. That is the one reason I will never drive a Japanese import.
25th Mar 2009, 18:27
GM has tried to emulate the styling of imports. In other words, they fired their own design teams and ripped-off the look of cars that were selling. THIS is why GM will fail. They quit making unique vehicles and copied the Japanese. When you have to choose between a foreign or domestic car and they both look alike, most would opt foreign. Even old-timers who fought and served in wars overseas who swore they would never drive a foreign job have come around. I'm not a proponent of import cars, I drive a Monte Carlo SS everyday and I hate ricers. I am, however, upset with GM and the company's lack of ambition to save itself. If billions of dollars fell into my lap, I would have taken GM off life support by now. Also, despite the fact the Caprice never sold, it was still quality (I have a 9C1, that's why I won't shut up about the Caprice. Love that car.)
20th Oct 2009, 07:52
There are some very suspect positive reviews about GM cars in this website you know... This is one of them.
No, really, anyone in their right mind knows the Buick Lucerne has got to be the lamest excuse for a luxury sedan you can buy these days.
So the Buick Lucerne Super, it may have a V8 engine, but it performs like a 4-cylinder with V8 fuel economy; actually I'm being unfair to the engine, I suspect the real culprit is the recalcitrant 4-speed transmission, but you get the point: Mediocre performance with equally mediocre fuel economy.
Then there's the monumentally sleep inducing styling. Even in black, the Lucerne still is no beauty to behold and it's even worse inside where everything appears to have been lifted directly out of the catastrophically boring Chevrolet Impala (An utterly, utterly hateful car by the way).
Oh and I still haven't got to the worst bit yet: Driving the thing.
It rolls and wallows all over the place, the anvil in the nose causes it to wash wide and holy torque-steer! You can say the Lucerne isn't supposed to be sporty at all, but it doesn't mean the car has to be this stodgy to drive.
I could say the Lucerne has a fantastic stereo and it's spacious and comfortable, but what's the point?
You don't give a damn whether the stereo sounds good or not; it's something you simply don't care when buying a car.
Spacious and comfortable is what you would expect from a full-size American sedan, so that's pretty much predictable.
Overall the Buick Lucerne is a boring car that you shouldn't be bothered even trying. It's mediocre at its best.