"I believe Chrysler to be a dead company with poor products"
Hardly. The new 200 received rave reviews, and the Ram is Truck of the Year. Chrysler is opening a new plant in Michigan to employ hundreds of people. People said Chrysler was dead in 1980 when the government loaned them money. They repaid every penny of that loan with interest and went on to build some absolutely awesome cars. Watch. They'll do it again. People are waking up to the fact that sending our car-buying dollars to Japan does NOTHING to help the U.S.
By the way, comments posted here are supposed to be about the review of the 2008 Aveo, not American vs. Asian cars.
Log in to a chat forum to post page-long soapbox speeches about what nationality you think is better. Not here.
I don't see any page long soapbox speeches on nationality here. Here are my comments on the Daewoo Kalos, otherwise called the Aveo: the Aveo is a poor effort by GM, who never cared about small cars, to compete with the Toyota Yaris, Honda Fit, Nissan Versa, Hyundai Accent, Kia Rio, and non-existent subcompacts by Chrysler and Ford. They simply didn't offer anything for years. I believe that's relevant to the Aveo. You have to compare it against something, or else, what's the point?
In the Words, of Phil Edmunston, the long running author of the Lemon - Aid series books, 'the Aveo is a crap grenade waiting to go off.' His words, not mine, but I do agree with them. Daewoo went bankrupt in North America, and so did GM. Together they produced the Aveo. Why anyone would ever buy this car is beyond me.
Can I ask CarSurvey on behalf of GM and GMDaewoo, why it is that they continue to print comments by this individual who appears to hate the Chevrolet Aveo (perhaps because of its decent sales success in the US and world-wide).
I suspect most people who have purchased or are considering purchase a Chevrolet Aveo couldn't care less what you think, especially considering the fact that you would appear to jump at the chance at buying a Kia or Hyundai!!
Carsurvey.org is moderated quite lightly as a matter of policy, as it's easier to be consistent that way.
Basically, the site tolerates (within limits) contentious opinions and even perhaps a little trolling, rather than moderating more aggressively, which would come with the danger that the site's content would be skewed by my personal views, despite my efforts to avoid that outcome.
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GM wants to forget the Aveo. That's why they are changing the name to Sonic, which brings up images of a Hedgehog for many people. Many have said that it's a goofy name change. What I really hate is people buying a product that costs them thousands and thousands in repairs, and is often in the shop, so they can't even drive it. Please search Aveo reviews from drivers and owners on this site, or read about it elsewhere. There are many books on new and used cars as well.
There are MANY who have sworn off GM forever because of this car. They are frustrated and angry. I believe people DO care about opinions that differ from yours, or should care about comments that are truthful about the Aveo. Most people are smart consumers, and LOOK at negative reviews that contain FACTS as well as the positive. If they are negative, too bad if that bothers you. Also, you might want to keep the hate claim comments to yourself. You obviously hate Hyundai/Kia. Also, what gives you the idea that I would JUMP at the chance to own a Hyundai/Kia? I never said it, so please don't tell me what kind of car I prefer, even if there is nothing wrong with owning a Hyundai. EVERYTHING I have stated about GMDAT, and the Daewoo Kalos/Chevrolet Aveo is truth.
How does attempting to censor comments about the Aveo help keep the focus on the Aveo? Negative comments are a part of this site.
78000 on our Aveo and no broken timing belt.
The Aveo is not a bad little car at all. I test drove one, and was impressed with the smooth ride for such a small car, and the excellent build quality. The new Sonic, which will be replacing the Aveo, will be built in the U.S. by GM. That will no doubt result in even higher quality and reliability, as well as more dollars in Americans pockets. I am looking forward to test driving the new Sonic when it is released for sale.
As for the comment on the timing belt at 78,000 miles, I wouldn't push it. The recommended change interval is 60,000 on these belts, and changing them before they break can save unnecessary headaches.
Personally I don't have that much experiences with the Aveo, but I know the GM organization quite well. And I know that GM in N. America never had a good and consistent small car strategy. Usually they try to unload as much fuel guzzling pick-ups, SUVs and large cars they can. But now and then, when the fuel prices are up, they suddenly find out that they need to compete in the compact and sub compact field. But they can't be bothered to develop something from scratch, so they import some cheap tin-cans from overseas, like with the Aveo and the Cruze, and glue a Chev bowtie to them. Don't be fooled, GM support of these vehicles is poor, like it always has been for their low end cars. It's just about unloading tin-cans so GM can say they are competing in all fields.
If one "knows the GM organization quite well" (and owning one bad GM car hardly qualifies), then one would know that GM in 2009 had more 30mpg+ cars than Toyota did. Most GM vehicles other than large, truck-based SUV's get extremely good mileage. At present the highest fuel mileage vehicle on Earth (excluding hybrids and Smart Golf carts) is the 50mpg Chevy Cruze Eco. In a highway test the car returned 48.5 mpg, and the reviewer stated that 50 mpg was very achievable by driving the speed limit.
In May GM outsold Toyota in the U.S. by more than 2 to 1. The introduction of the new American made Sonic to replace the Aveo will result in even higher sales. Both GM and Ford have been on a roll since even before the recession, and show no signs of slowing down. I'm glad. I want my car-buying dollars spent on U.S. products, not going to Japan or Korea.
If you want your money to trickle down on the US economy, WHY ON EARTH would you buy cars like the Aveo or the Cruze? Aveo is actually a Daewoo Kalos, built in Korea and designed in Korea/Japan. And the Cruze is actually a Daewoo Lacetti, built in Korea and designed in Korea/Germany.
About the GM effort in the mpg department, it's all old news. You should study their history better. Every time the fuel prices are up, it's all arms and legs to offload some small, cheap tin-cans made overseas like the Aveo. Besides the grotesquely overpriced Aveo and the Cruze, Chevrolet doesn't have any high mpg cars. Or do you mean the Volt; the car you actually can't buy and that is expected to get a retail price in the 41-45K range for the few "lucky" buyers that actually can get hold on one? If you think anything of that is for real, you are not really paying any attention. Volt is all about marketing hype.
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