30th Aug 2004, 12:39
(Follow up to the June 6th comment) Just found out that in Canada, yet another version of the Daewoo is being sold, this one disguised as a Pontiac. It's called the Pontiac Wave. Let's see now, we have the Daewoo which led to the Chevrolet Aveo sold in America with a different name elsewhere, then the Suzuki Swift sold in Canada, and now the Pontiac Wave. All the same Daewoo, just with different badges. Talk about Sloanism!
12th Nov 2004, 14:06
Thanks for the heads up on the Transmission fuel replacement. My Aveo mileage is currently at 5400. No problems so far... and the longer I drive this car.. I LOVE IT!! And yes, my clock randomly shows a different time.
23rd Dec 2004, 22:43
I purchased my Aveo in April 04. I am not very pleased with gas economy. I was told high 40 mpg, but really I am getting high 30 m p G.
I have had a problem with the heater which the garage repaired at their cost. The other day when it was very cold something caused the engine to race over 7000 rpm. I gave the gas petal a quick tap and the engine rpms reduced to normal speeds.
I also find that at very slow speeds; under 5klm the engine cuts out for a fraction of a second, long enough to make for a very jerky ride. It is really painful because it happens when there is a hold up in the traffic and the cars are moving very slowly.
Other wise the car is very comfortable.
16th Feb 2005, 18:48
In response to the American car hater post earlier... You shouldn't go arguing about something you have no knowledge of. I'm not making an argument, just correcting that ignorant persons mistakes. The 2.7L V6 is a US DC engine. The 3.0 V6 used in some of DC's sporty coupes is a mitsubishi engine -as well as the rest of the car. The 2.7 V6 problems were not the fault of DC, but rather the supplier of parts to DC. The suppliers were not cleaning the parts well enough on SOME of the engines. There was metal flashing on parts like the pistons and connecting rods. That flashing would come off, and float loose in the oil. Then it would get stuck at a certain spot, damaging the timing chain tensioner. When the timing chain tensioner fails, the oil flow is greatly diminished, causing the oil to heat up and caramelize. THAT is the cause of the oil sludging in a SMALL number of the 2.7's. Using a synthetic oil can help prevent the oil sludging. By the time the tensioner fails (and you will know when it fails), the oil, being much more resistant to caramelization, will not have gummed up the engine. All you need to do is drop the oil pan, clean out the metal shavings, flush the engine, replace the tensioner, put in some more synthetic oil, and you're engine is good to go.
Another thing, the 2.7 is an extremely well designed engine. the mitsubishi 3.0 has the same amount of HP, and only a few more ft-lbs torque. the 2.7L despite it's diminutive size, cranks out 200 hp and about 180 ft-lbs torque! Compare to the 3.0 mitsu, the 3.4 and 3.8 GM's, it can keep up with them easily. and only slightly smaller 2.4's and 2.5's put out almost 50 hp less, and much less torque. DC has every right and reason to continue using the 2.7's, however, I am disappointed with how DC handled the 2.7 failures.
BTW... I intend to get myself an Aveo in the near future :)
30th Apr 2006, 23:39
I recently leased a 2006 Pontiac Wave5 Uplevel. With keyless entry, power locks and windows and MP3 player and a $2500 down payment the payment is $197 a month taxes in! The buyout is $5200. For that kind of money there is no point driving junk. For the money, it is an excellent car. There has not been one problem, nothing, none.
8th May 2006, 16:08
To the above poster who insists on the 2.7's quality: Go read various Chrysler reviews about the 2.7 V-6. You'll see that nearly EVERYone has had some sort of MAJOR problem with this particular piece of Daimler Chrysler crap. Well designed my arse.
5th Feb 2007, 08:52
My "Daewoo" cost $6995 new. A similar Yaris was $12K or more. I don't deny the Toyota is a better product, but when an Aveo costs nearly half as much my wallet does the talking.
6th Feb 2007, 12:49
A quick search at GM and Toyotas websites for Canada shows the Aveo listed at $12 995 and the Yaris at $13 580, both are the base models. They were roughly the same price 3 years ago as well which is why I'm baffled, if you managed to get the car new at half the price of the Yaris, then I too would be happy with your purchase.
6th Feb 2007, 19:17
You are confused. The base Aveo is called SVM and lists at $9,995 USD. It does not have air conditioning, power locks/windows/mirrors, and a basic AM/FM radio (no CD or cassette!). In 2005 dealers here in California didn't think the car was going to sell well so offered it for $6995 USD for about 8 months. And that's what I did. Called the dealer up, picked out a color, and got the car for $3,000 off list price. In mid-2006 a friend of mine also got an Aveo, but the "bottom line pricing" had gone up to $7,700 although the car now had side airbags.
Things are different now that the Aveo has become popular, and dealers are pushing the Cobalt since those aren't selling. A loaded Aveo is something like over $14K and I would never pay that for this car even with the new fake wood inside.
The base Yaris is much more expensive, although I'm sure the quality is better. But when you compare the Yaris to the Scion (ironically sold by Toyota) the Yaris seems like a rip off feature-for-feature.
10th Feb 2007, 16:27
I guess the confusing part is the difference in MSRP from Canada to the US; the lowest priced Aveo listed at gm.ca is $12995CDN. The lowest priced Yaris listed on toyota.ca is $13800CDN. So I guess only a Aveo owner from Canada could answer my question of why they chose the Daewoo. Again, I too would be happy with an Aveo at nearly half the price of a Yaris. It's interesting that in Canada that isn't possible.
11th Feb 2007, 09:45
I totally agree. The Aveo is a good car for what it is, but if it was the same price as a Yaris or even Nissan it's no longer worth buying.
1st Jan 2008, 21:52
I bought a new 2004 base model Aveo 1/15/05 for $6,474 in Illinois. It now has 63,000 miles. It is a 5-spd. with no a/c. The ONLY problem has been the clock with a "mind of its own". When my wife and I are in our Aveo, it is really spacious, but when we see another Aveo on the road, we laugh at how small it looks. In my almost 50-yrs. of owning many cars, I've never had one so trouble free. Of course it's such a basic car that there aren't many things that can go wrong. The car averages between 34-38 mpg, with most travel at highway speeds. We love this car-cheap & economical.