22nd Apr 2006, 06:08
My last car was a Pug 106 Quiksilver (almost identical in every way to a saxo furio/west coast), which had an induction kit, cat replacement pipe, and full stainless steel system, which boosted the power considerably. When I bought a VTR, it was quicker and had more torque as standard than the modified 106. There is no way that a furio could match the VTR for performance.
Also worthy of noting, is that the "in gear" speed times, for example 30-60 in 4th gear, are much better in the VTR due to the greater torque figures.
9th Aug 2006, 09:30
I have a furio. I havn't raced a Zetec S and I wouldn't try because I wouldn't win.
I have raced a VTR from the traffic lights which I beat in first gear. As soon as I changed to second it started to come past. I don't make things up either. So no-one needs to start saying its impossible.
I think the furio seems faster than it is due to its well matched engine-gearbox set up.
2nd Oct 2006, 17:07
No it seems perfectly believable that you stayed with a VTR in 1st gear, I'm mean the ratio is so low that most cars would seem to be matched in 1st gear. Its 2nd gear that you notice the big difference in performance.
15th May 2007, 16:56
Well I will have you know I have a Furio with a 16v conversion; the power to weight ratio is amazing. 110BHP, and I can stay with a standard VTS to 105 MPH.
VTR drivers think they are fast, and that is why I have left my Furio badge on, as I love to look at their face when I leave them in EVERY gear.
You either get a Furio or a VTS, there's no inbetween VTR.
I got the idea of a 16v conversion from a friend who already has one, however he has a straight though pipe induction kit, cams and pulleys, and forged pistons, and that goes past Civic Type R's After all it does have 165BHP.
16th May 2007, 11:11
Standard VTR's are faster than standard furio's, yours is tuned, a 16v conversion is no small modd. you could have just got a VTS.
20th Sep 2007, 18:00
To the guy on about a 16v conversion... LOL to you. Should have gone for the in between VTR! I've sold my VTR now, got a 318ti. Still I maintain the VTR is a reliable, economical and quick car.
14th Dec 2007, 08:54
I can't believe people fall for the claims made by the makers of this bolt on tat. You might get a bhp or two from an induction kit depending on how crap the standard airbox is. It is very difficult to improve on a standard exhaust nowadays too.
28th Feb 2008, 13:18
What do you think about getting a furio for your first car cause wanting something sporty and I don't see the point in forking out about 1300 for insurance on a VTR? Only thing is they never seem to be on sale and if they are the prices are ridiculous. But smart cars!
5th Nov 2008, 06:50
All cars lose bhp with age and that sounds about right, a loss of about 10% for a car which has to be 10years old or so. Plus it depends on the RR that it was taken to, how accurate their setup was etc. More often than not cars will struggle to produce factory spec bhp anyway, be down by a couple of bhp to start with I'd have thought.
6th Nov 2008, 16:48
Just depends on the car, a guy I know rolling roaded his 105bhp Rover 25 1.4 k series and got something stupid like 83bhp. Needless to say he was gutted, especially as he thought he had looked after the car since he got it.
10th Nov 2008, 16:23
Hi, got a prob with a keycode on my Furio. It won't start, just flashing. I have a VTR breaking. Anybody know if I can get my 1400cc Furio running off the VTR ECU?
3rd Oct 2009, 11:16
If it's 1.4 litre and has 16 valves, then it's not an engine fitted as standard to Saxo's. They made 1.4 8vs. The only engine with 16 valves was the 1.6 which went into VTSs.
17th Nov 2009, 03:26
It maybe that you have a Furio with a 106 Gti/Saxo VTS bottem end.. or vice-versa, I've seen this been done before. - not very common tho.
7th Nov 2011, 16:10
I've got a Y reg Saxo Furio 1.4 3 plug ECU. I read that if I fit a 1.6 VTR cam and ECU, would the car start straight away, or would I have to have it recoded? Could you send me a step by step instructions? Cheers.
16th Feb 2005, 20:08
I got a C3 1.4i SX Auto and I have bomb passed Saxo Furio's VTR and even a VTS on Duel Carridge ways and overtaken on main roads like the A470 in South Wales etc. but my Automtic Gear Box has Sport mode so I do give the Saxo Furio/VTR/VTS benifit of the doubt. I was behind a Saxo 1.1i Desire on a hill one day and I couldn't keep up with it. It went bloodie fast up the hill. I liked my P reg Saxo 1.6i SX Auto now that was a fast car.