22nd Apr 2007, 09:05

I saw a Fusion the other day. First one I've seen in months - they are a pretty rare sight, so much so I see more Ferraris than I see Fusions. See lots and lots and lots of Camrys and Accords.

Guess here in California, the car capital of the world, Fusions aren't "rolling off the dealer lots" like you say.

24th Apr 2007, 07:26

I think this car will eventually unseat the camry and accord. The reason is that every test they have done between these cars, the fusion has always been rated the best of them all. Camrys are getting much worse with quality and relability.

25th Apr 2007, 18:55

Why all the drug connotations? It seems someone that continually refers to it is more suspect. I am sure Ford knows what they are doing... you can sell a lot of plain vanilla vehicles, but that is not always the better performer or fun vehicle to actually own and drive.

26th Apr 2007, 08:06

I guess they know what they are doing since FORD is losing "a Mustang a minute" and they are forecasted to lose even more money. Besides the 07 Camry V6 is much faster then a Fusion.

26th Apr 2007, 19:03

Just so everyone knows, most camrys have the lil 4 banger. Not the ridiculous v6 with 268 hp. People buying a family car with more than 200 hp have no business driving it.

26th Apr 2007, 19:34

And the Mustang is much faster than the Camry.

26th Apr 2007, 19:52

On a nice summer night you have 2 choices. Driving a non descript 2007 Camry hardtop sedan or a 2007 Mustang Shelby Convertible with the top down... 0-60 mph in 4.8 seconds. And as soon as the warranty is up, you are open for endless upgrades. Not just another bland sedan out on the road.

27th Apr 2007, 14:28

Why would you compare a 2007 Camry to a 2007 Shelby Cobra??? That is illogical. If anything you should be comparing the Cobra to the new Skyline coming out.

I guess since the fusion is not even in the Camry's league you have to find a Ford car that is worth about 25K more.

27th Apr 2007, 19:48

14:28 read 8:06...a Camry owner initiated the Mustang comments prior to the follow up. By the way I have personally seen individuals that also drive very bland used inexpensive econo vehicles instead of driving their prized new expensive convertible sports cars to shopping centers, train stations, stadiums etc where I live. The intention is to lessen the chances of theft, vandalism and having your car doors banged up. On long trips however the nicer car comes out.

28th Apr 2007, 10:18

19:48... I read the comment and he stated that the V6 Camry can take a V6 Mustang which I believe it can since the V6 mustang is a joke. However the Camry is not made to take on a Mustang GT or much less a Shelby Cobra. I have driven the 07 Camry V6 and that car is quicker then the new Altima 3.5 and a lot quicker then the Ford Fusion.

28th Apr 2007, 19:09

19:52 Your comparison is kind of senseless. If you want to compare sports cars, then compare sportscars. If you want to compare family cars, then do so. As far as sports cars go, I'd take a Supra twin turbo over any Mustang without even giving it a thought. The Supra will eat it for breakfast. Try following one in your Mustang, or any Mustang for that matter. You'll lose control in the bends and crash while seeing nothing, but the Supra's tail lights, if you see it at all. Now, as far as family cars go, Ford doesn't and never has made anything that can compare to a Camry. For that matter, I have a friend that owns a 5.0 1989 Mustang that he thinks is a sportscar. That thing is COMPLETELY useless unless you're going in a straight line on flat ground. The handling is... well, there isn't really any handling. It's downright dangerous to drive. Actually, it doesn't even do that well in a straight line, as it just sits there and spins, having no connection to the road at all. A Supra with four flat tires would handle better. The new Mustangs are better, but still not in the same league as a car that Toyota make 20 years ago.

29th Apr 2007, 14:10

I agree I like the twin turbo Supra. I hope Toyota brings out the 2008 Concept and it becomes reality. But this about basic transportation not like Mustang GT's which are a true musclecar bargains. There are endless mods available. Do your homework and find out how much the twin turbo Supra sold for. Sorry a Camry with the pipe and rims isn't the direction I would go for.

29th Apr 2007, 21:18

My LT1 Caprice 9C1 is almost as fast as a 5.0 Mustang... faster to 80 and 100 miles per hour. If you don't know what a Caprice is it is a huge boat that rides on a Tahoe sized chassis. Not really a Tahoe, but same size almost and was built in Arlington Texas.

6th Aug 2007, 00:14


I see you guys are geniuses to compare oranges and apples!

I work on Found On the Road Dead every single day!

The best vehicle, actually a part of a vehicle, Ford has ever come up with was 7.3L IDI for E/F series truck built by International. There are some well built models of Ford. However, Fusion is one of better vehicle Ford has come up with!

Nevertheless, we shouldn't compare Honda or Toyota to Ford, even though they are all made in USofA (don't tell me they are not). Most JDM Hondas and Toyotas are way better cars than any US built ones simply because CARB and EPA degrade vehicles before the birth of one!

I had JDM internals on a 97 Infiniti Q45 (Nissan Cima) I owned for about 3 years, let me tell you I could blow any Q45 off the line and SOME!!! Sadly, I had lost it in an accident!

After all, who needs a car with V6 or V8 engine with more than 150HP for a daily commute?

Are gasoline prices no trouble to you at all?


6th Aug 2007, 13:44

In America gas prices are still within reason compared too many parts of the world. Thus the larger vehicles that many prefer to drive here. Hybrids are actually expensive to recoup the savings on fuel and sales are dropping according to the latest report I read.

7th Aug 2007, 14:18

Gasoline "game" is in its embryo state as of now!

Legislators are trying to save us mortals from paying what Europe and other regions are paying...

It is an American mentality - "I want to do what I want to do".

Had we had engine taxation or emissions as strict as in Japan, I don't think a lot of people would have wanted to drive "big blocks" and such!!!


10th Aug 2007, 12:47

With $40 a barrel profit a barrel no one seems to complain unless they see a large SUV or a domestic V8. I feel that the misdirected anger should be directed at the oil companies that are able to get away with this. People work hard & buy what they can afford... if you live in a rural area, fuel is less; if you are on the interstate or a major city, the price goes up. Its about extracting as much as the market can bear without government intervention. I still would rather own a comfortable domestic full size vehicle rather than be forced into a tiny uncomfortable econo box. I see sales directly affected by the economy & gas pricing; not what people would actually prefer owning. My driving preference has not changed--I drive a bit less. It was also nice to see the refineries reinvesting their enormous profits into environmental upgrades and more pollution controls to invest in our future. But plant shutdowns with high fuel profitability means loss of revenues. But it seems that all you read is about end users import/domestic favoritism and strictly what they own; not the real culprit in my opinion. People are not giving up driving...yet...just more tiny vehicles. Maybe more will become wiser in time. I am also not looking forward to high fuel oil expenses this winter in my home. But arguing over imports and domestics must make a lot of people feel better I guess.