15th May 2010, 15:29
Please post links to those articles... Also, going by anything a British driver says about an American car is not a real good gauge of reality, as they drive much smaller cars on tight twisty roads and the driving style is night and day to what we have here in the U.S. I hate when people try to compare other countries opinions with American ones on cars. There is NO COMPARISON to be made. Car and Driver praised the Fox Mustang in the 80's and early 90's as best bang for the buck year after year and they never once complained about "death trap" like driving experiences... Give me a break! No kidding a Mustang wouldn't make a good rally car!!
I have owned two Fox Mustangs (the first as a young fool at 22) and driven countless others and never once felt like I was in a "death trap" They drove way better than the old IROC Camaros and Firebirds of the same years. I never lost control and my cars both handled perfectly in all conditions including on wet pavement. You needed a sense of restraint on wet pavement, yes, but it didn't make the cars any more difficult to control. Sorry, I have the experience too and probably a lot more than you with Fox Body Mustangs, and I totally disagree with you.
16th May 2010, 10:56
"Please post links to those articles"
Try looking at every review ever written on these cars. I've never read a review in ANY publication that DIDN'T point out the hazards of the V-8 Foxes tendency to break loose on any surface too easily. With that said, I still regard the Fox as a very attractive and fun car, but I'd never let my kid own one.
16th May 2010, 16:56
To comment 15:29.
I guess you've never heard of "Top Gear". It is a British show, but it's actually pretty funny. Also, I'm not the same person who wrote the comment you responded to, just figured I'd throw in my 2 cents. The guy doesn't necessarily have to be from Great Britain to watch "Top Gear", I'm from and live in the States and I watch "Top Gear".
Oh, but I do agree with the guy.
17th May 2010, 13:20
I used to read every article back when these cars were new, and never once heard about the hazards of them breaking loose too easily. Yeah, smoking the tires while sliding sideways on dry pavement was an option if you really had the need, but Car and Driver articles praised that more as fun than a hazard.
Maybe you've all gotten too used to traction control and ABS and every other fun sucking thing they have put onto a car to keep it on the road for you. Like I said, I have driven countless 5.0 Mustangs to the extreme, including passing someone around a turn on the outside and winding it up to 80 in third gear... and the car didn't even miss a beat or pull any way but where I wanted it to go. I was even racing my cousin in his turbo coupe T-Bird (not much of a race actually) and did a power slide around a sand covered corner. I took off and watched him fishtailing back and forth and he almost lost the car totally... the Mustang took off without a hitch, on sandy covered pavement and that was a lighter coupe version. Yes, I was a dumb fool driving crazy like that, but I always had total control and never lost to much of anyone on a straightaway or in the twisties with my Mustangs. Maybe I am just a way better driver than I give myself credit for huh?
18th May 2010, 16:17
After reading the specs on the 2011 Mustangs, I can't wait for the reasons the "power freaks" will be giving to pay $10,000 more for a V-8 now. The 2011 V-6 is only EIGHT TENTHS of a second slower than the V-8. So now ten grand will get you fully EIGHT TENTHS of a second faster to 60. I guess those "munchy attacks" that require a quick trip to Wal-Mart can be pretty serious for some folks!!
19th May 2010, 09:05
Actually the starting price for the GT is about $7,500 above the base V-6. The "base" GT will undoubtedly be much better equipped than the V-6 car though (over and above the obvious V-8 that is) so most buyers will opt for the premium V-6, which cuts that difference down to about $4K. Once again, 0-60 times aren't the only reason people buy these cars. The whole V-8 experience is what the GT is all about.
That being said, I think that the V-6 car is going to be an amazing value, and I would definitely be looking at one for my next Mustang. I no longer have the need to go too fast, and now that they have a refined V-6 for this car it will be worth a test drive. I refused to even drive a 4.0 Mustang after hearing one on the road years ago. It was so contradictory to the look of the car to hear that sound coming from it! It's nice that GM and Ford are putting out sporty cars with powerful V-6's as an option, and now 30 mpg is a reality with over 300 hp.
Oh, and you should probably keep your "munchy attacks" to yourself... LOL.
19th May 2010, 13:00
I have over 20k in my crate motor. I usually shop at NAPA across from Walmart and the carts near my paint job.
19th May 2010, 15:01
If I had a car with a $20K engine in it, I wouldn't likely be parking it at Walmart or anywhere else where a stray cart might whack it! Don't you know that you're supposed to take the wife's car to Walmart??
20th May 2010, 22:25
"It was so contradictory to the look of the car to hear that sound coming from it!"
What is it with this SOUND thing!! Who CARES what an engine SOUNDS like? Besides, there ARE such things as after-market exhaust systems.
22nd May 2010, 09:07
I care what my car sounds like... as do most enthusiasts. If I wanted an Explorer I'd buy one. The Mustang 4.0 is just grating and very unpleasant. I guess you could crank up the Shaker sound system though huh? And why should I have to replace a perfectly good exhaust system just to make the car sound decent?
I guess the masses would just buy whatever, but for my money I could find a better all around car for the same money as a 4.0 Mustang. Now in the 2011 Mustang we finally have a V-6 that is worth the time in performance and SOUND.
26th May 2010, 15:17
"The Mustang 4.0 is just grating and very unpleasant"
GRATING?? Please. On the 2010 V-6 you can hardly hear the engine with the windows up. If I hit the gas and it goes, doesn't shake and isn't knocking, I hardly consider ANY engine note "unpleasant". This is strictly a matter of opinion, and hardly worth an extra 10 grand.