Yes, I realize the 2011 still has the live rear axle, but the way it handles and the way Ford has tuned it and the rest of the suspension is amazing. I had nearly 200,000 miles on the old 89, and was a great car with few problems... a daily driver except for some days during winter... poor things was just finally rusting away. The 89 Mustang was always our "3rd car"... had several other cars/trucks between my wife, and during that time, but none compare to my new toy.
The difference between the horrible riding, dangerously tail-light Foxes and the new Mustangs is like night and day. I also prefer the much-improved fuel mileage of new models to the 11 mpg my Fox got!!
Improved fuel mileage is a nice perk... however, to get that good mileage it is unfair torture, as it's so darn hard to keep your foot out of the 412HP...
The Fox body was light in the rear end, but dangerous? I never felt either of mine were dangerous in any way. I also drove one of them through the tough upstate NY winters. I did have the traction lok 3.08's though, so that could have made a huge difference. I wouldn't have kept them at all, never mind buying a second one, if I even thought for one second they were a dangerous car to drive around in. I can only think this is a bit of an exaggeration, since there are still so many of them around, and they are still a popular car. Wouldn't they all have been totaled by now if they were so dangerous?
It sounds like all people in here are driving their GTs on 100% smooth, dry and sunny roads. What about us driving a lot in the wet and even in snow. I've driven several Mustangs, old and new ones, and they were all horrible under winter conditions.
I'd claim that newer GTs are completely useless in the snow; on the verge of being outright dangerous.
I am very thankful to be fortunate enough to not to have to drive the '11 GT in snowy conditions... I have an 4x4 Expedition for those kind of days, however, it was not always that way for me... I used to drive my old '89 LX 5.0 in all weather conditions years ago, and she more than held her own... if you knew how to control it and what to expect from her. Avoid doing stupid things, and take your sweet old time in the slow lane when weather conditions are far from ideal... I see many a GT on the road around here in those conditions, and most adhere to the same philosophy... those that don't... you see in the median. I only spun her once, and that was from coming off of an overpass that must have had black ice on it... I was going backwards before I knew what was happening... my fault entirely too, got on it a little too much, and hello 360.
Complaining about driving a Mustang in the snow... and "claiming" they're useless without actually driving one. You know what they say about assuming things...
Well first off, yes ANY sports car can be very dangerous in the snow if you don't know how to control them. But honestly, what makes a Mustang dangerous in the snow? The only thing that really makes a Mustang dangerous is the excess power, making breaking the wheels loose easier. So as long as you keep your RPMs out of the power band, you're fine. As a matter of fact, the extra wide tires on a sports car give them better traction in the snow than the tiny rubber bands on a Civic do. As long as you're not driving on summer-only tires in the snow, in which case it's your fault completely for sliding off the road. Add the fact that Mustangs are as standard equipped with traction control and ABS, and why wouldn't it be fine in the snow?
I had an 02 Mustang GT that I drove year round for a while. In November, I would take it to the dealer, and have my cheapo brand snow tires swapped on, and drive it no problem through the winter. Just light on the throttle, minding my own business, and it gave me no problems. I've driven past quite a few Jeeps in a ditch because they drive like they're invincible in the snow. I don't get why people just 'assume' sports cars are bad in the snow. Probably because people don't use their brains while driving anymore it seems.
So stay light on the throttle and don't drive like an idiot, and you'll be perfectly fine, perhaps even better off than a Civic or Focus with tiny tires. But if you're a bad driver, there's no car in the world that will save you.
"As a matter of fact, the extra wide tires on a sports car give them better traction in the snow than the tiny rubber bands on a Civic do."
I am sorry, but this is absolutely false. Even full size pickups and SUV's with 20 inch rims on them and huge tires are lousy in the snow. My uncle had an F-150, and he slid right over a curb because of his huge tires, and it was a 4X4. He totally lost steering ability on plain snow. The more surface area you have on a tire, the more it floats over the snow, causing slipping and sliding. Even my Focus with its 16" wheels and wider all season tires is terrible in the snow. If I got narrower tires on it, it would make it perform better.
I have driven Mustangs in the snow, but only with 4 Blizzaks on, and guess what? They were narrower then the summer treads! Narrower tires dig down to the pavement much better than big fat tires ever will. The best vehicles I have ever driven in snow are Subarus. They outperform most SUV's mostly due to their smaller narrower tires. I have literally driven around SUV's stuck on hills in the snow with my Subarus. They were slipping and sliding, and mine hardly broke traction.
"Even full size pickups and SUV's with 20 inch rims on them and huge tires are lousy in the snow."
So true. Wide tires are HORRIBLE on both snow and wet roads. They ride on top of the snow or water and have much less grip. I have a Mustang with wide tires, and a compact with skinny tires. I'd have to be insane to take my Mustang out in the snow. It's dangerous enough just in the rain. The average Mustang GT is not made for driving on anything but dry pavement in a straight line. If it's raining or snowing, the Civic will leave the Mustang flopping around like a fish out of water.
Mustangs are nice cars from the factory, please stop customizing them, some of them are now sooooo ugly, just being look-at-me different.
What will be the Mustang's next move when the new 2012 ZL1 Camaro with its 550 HP from the factory will hit the road. Mustangs already have the supercharged version with the 5.4 liters, rumors on the side says that a ZR1 Camaro is in the waiting room with the same engine from big brother Corvette, even the new Challenger with its "new" Hemi 392 will be in the back...
I suppose that die hard Mustang fans will continue buying them, even if one day they become battery powered... Wouldn't it be nice one day seeing a "battle" of electric Camaros or Mustangs, Hope they won't be customized with chromed batteries or chromed electric wires or motors!