I just spec'd out a 2005 Limited with some nice options, and landed at a target price of $23,388 at carsdirect.com, so hopefully will get a good deal...
I just checked out prices on '05 Liberty's. The Limited MSRP is now about $1500. more than the Renegades base MSRP.
The Limited is the top of the line (luxury) model, where the Renegade is the sporty off-road model.
All Liberty's seem to be good values for a compact SUV.
Just bought a 2004 renegade and I love it, all except for the terrible gas mileage, which I hope gets better considering the bone chilling cold weather, and the fact I only have 100km on it! looks great and drives great.
My wife traded in her 2001 Dodge Stratus R/T last month for a 2WD Jeep Liberty Limited; Dark Khaki Pearl Coat, customer preferred package 28G (as opposed to the base 'F' package) which has heated leather seats, Sirius satellite radio (1st year subscription paid for by Chrysler), Infinity speakers, and much more. I've always been a used car guy (so as not to get into a negative equity situation). I was so impressed with her new Liberty that I traded in both my 1993 Mazda 929 AND my 1994 Ford F-150XL for the exact same Liberty only with Selec-Trac 4WD. Same color, same everything. We now have his & hers Jeeps. It's mileage isn't as good as the Mazda 929 but a little better than the F-150 which had a 4.9 liter straight 6 with towing package. My wifes' only had hers a month, and I've only had mine 4 days, but we absolutely love 'em. My wife was upside down in her trade-in so financed $27K for her 2WD, and I had two paid for trade-ins so financed $21K for my 4WD. $1500 of the March rebates were applied to hers; all $2000 of my rebate went into my deal. We also both got 0% Chrysler financing with 'B' rated credit. We are very happy Jeep owners!
I am thinking of buying a Jeep Limited 2005. Any problems with the pulling to the right or other issues on this model. Please share your comments. Thanks.
I bought my 2005 Jeep Liberty Limited 4x2 in July of this year. It drives beautifully, handles well, is extremely comfortable (w/leather seats), has a great sound system (Infinity speakers), looks great and guzzles gas like there is no tomorrow. Even with gentle driving (mostly city) I am averaging 15.4 miles/gallon. I had never been so conscious about gas consumption before. Ironically, I had been considering purchasing a Prius (but decided I would be paying too much for an ugly econo car and would only recoup the gas savings after several years). Little did I know that already high gas prices would soar beyond $3.00.
That being said, I do not completely regret the purchase. Following Hurricane Katrina (here in Miami) the Jeep did come in handy a couple of itmes. I suspect gas prices eventually will come down, and I did benefit from employee pricing + cash rebate (although the same car is now selling for about $1400 less than what I paid).
It looks like the Grand Cherokee still suffers from some of the same issues as the earlier models.
I don't know about the Commander. But since it is based on the Grand Cherokee, I would be surprised if it fared much better in the reliability department.
I think the safest bets in the Jeep line are still the Liberty & the Wrangler.
I'm one Jeep enthusiast who hopes the Compass (not a real Jeep) and the Patriot (at least it looks like a Jeep) fare better than some of the other Jeep models.
Glad to see you are happy with your jeep purchase (to the original poster) I purchased a used 2004 renegade with only 26k miles on it. I average 25mpg on the highway with bigger tires and loaded with camping equipment. Guess I got lucky? lol.
Original poster here - I still believe that the Jeep Liberty is the best 4x4 Value on the market - I'm currently driving a 2005 Liberty Limited with just under 50k on the odometer, and it is as solid as a rock.
The 2005 I was driving was as solid as a rock, but the underside was severely rusted due to it being a flood car. You would never know it by the way it looked and drove unless you crawled underneath and saw the salt water damage (even in the seat tracks). The dealer was awful about it, would not take the vehicle back and basically forced me to spend nearly $5000 more on a 2007 model. (I should mention that this was not a Jeep dealer, but a Mercedes dealer - I guess even Mercedes is not immune to sleazy dealerships).
In any event the 2007 is okay, I've soured on the experience because of the treatment I got from the Mercedes dealer, and from the Jeep dealer they got the 2007 from (the dealer stated it had Sirius radio - it did not - they basically said "tough").
Personally I find the mindset of auto dealers disturbing - they get away with as much as they can, figuring they will rarely be brought to court.
Anyway, the 2007 is an okay Limited - gets good MPG; low 20's highway, and high teens overall.
The Liberty offers a decent highway ride and is comfortable enough. I guess I'd just be more excited about it if the dealer hadn't ripped me off on the 2005 I had originally purchased, and then refused to rescind the deal.
I still believe Jeeps are the best values out there on the SUV market - sure there have been some missteps along the way (the Compass is not one of Chrysler/Jeeps best efforts, and some model year Grand Cherokees were very problematic, the 1999's for example), but the 2002 - 2007 Liberty was and is a fine vehicle.
And please don't forget the Jeep line from the mid-eighties to mid-nineties - it was absolutely incredible, featuring many of the finest SUVs ever built.
Regardless of the rate, AVOID rolling over negative equity into a new car purchase, otherwise you will find yourself only further upside down.
It is NEVER a good idea to go into a loan knowing you are upside down, and if you do, you had better be very sure that you intend to keep the vehicle for the full term of the loan, and also be aware that you are responsible for the full amount owed if the vehicle is totaled, so in that case you had better be prepared to pay even more for gap insurance.
In all seriousness, why anyone would roll negative equity into a new car loan is beyond me. It just is further proof that some folks refuse to learn from past mistakes. In other words - if you can't afford to buy a new car, DON'T. This is just an example of consumerism running amok. BTW, I am a retired automobile business manager, and I wouldn't recommend it to my own customers. I'd rather sleep well at night than know a customer is buried in a vehicle they really can't afford for 60 or 72 months.