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The only reason Kia/Hyundai are getting any sales is because their cars are dirt cheap..
Well people are voting with their feet - you both have ideas from the past and should go and drive the new models.
No-one would want a 90s Kia or Hyundai, but the new models such as the I30 and Cee'd are just as good as their Focus etc counterparts. Look at the future models and perhaps they will move up to second largest manufacturer - see www.netcarshow.com for the Kia Venga and Hyundai IX35 for example - both "premium" models within their sector.
Oh, and they are not cheap cars now, either - simply a better package at the price than other "mainstream" manufacturers and finding many homes due to high quality, high spec and class leading warranties.
See motoring magazines - eg Auto Express have run two I30s as long termers and really rate them.
Having read the thread again, the comment "it will be a sad day when Kia/Hyundai passes the mainstream manufacturers" seems daft, as it was posted in response to the comment that Hyundai-Kia HAS NOW overtaken Ford to become the third largest car producer in the world.
That's ahead of quite a few mainstream manufacturers then. In fact, nearly every single one of them...
Cue lots of bile and opinions of Hyundia-Kia based on 90s models, not the current ones... can't wait...!
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Becoming more mainstream now as many realise that the cars are a good alternative to mainstream models - not just a budget buy, bought solely on price - they are not that cheap!
If you look at the future models in the pipeline, the Cee'd is just the start - it is a very good car and the new Venga will help improve market share further.
Like with Skoda, over time the brand will gain more mainstream respect :- but Hyundai Kia are going for a more youthful stylish buyer with their new models.
It is no wonder their market share has improved so much - and will continue to do so...