6th Feb 2006, 01:38

I just traded in a 2001, WS6 (Ram Air) Trans Am. The engine was the LS1. The car had a Vortech supercharger and a Borla cat back exhaust. I ran it on Toyo Proxes tires. The Dyno charts for this vehicle indicated 475 horsepower / 454 ft-lbs at the rear wheels. I live at an elevation of 4900 feet and that is where the vehicle was tested. This car was a daily driver and a turn key setup, it required only basic maintenance.

I know several other drivers of built LS1's. We would race anything that moved, any place, any time. I would take this car to the raceway every chance I got, and run it on the 1/4 mile.

In over four years, I only saw ONE (1) Honda that could run under 12.00. ONE (1)!!! I have heard story after story of " the guy they know with the super fast ricer". They must all be talking about the same guy, because I never saw another!

Talk, talk, talk. Most ricers apply stickers and exhaust tips and tell you the car runs 10's. Talk, talk, talk.

22nd Feb 2006, 10:32

Left a GTO standing the other night in my Honda Civic. That dude didn't know what was going on. Civics are FASTER and HANDLE better than the GTO from stock.

22nd Feb 2006, 15:46

The GTO is credited with STARTING the "original muscle car" period.

It directly lead to vehicles like the Judge, Road-Runner, Cuda, Torino, GSX, Hurst 442, Charger, Super-bird, Trans-am, and many more. It was the original legend.

Talk of the Civic cannot honestly compare. If you are so young as to not comprehend the clasics that came before, you should not go around insulting the very institutions that made it possible for you to create a fast car from a slow car.

The civic is not fast from the factory (200 horsepower in a 2005 type R) It can only be made so, from parts descended from speed parts created for the original muscle cars demand.

Grow up and respect what created your opportunity to work on the cars you enjoy.

22nd Feb 2006, 15:55

Great so being on a Civic page seems sensible. Compare a stock GTO with a stock Honda. Or compare a modified GTO with a modified Civic. Great you left it at the light. Did the GTO notice that there was a race? I have been in a Viper with a Jeep Cherokee revving its engine next to us at a light and it wasn't worth lighting up $800 of rubber on our tires. And the Jeep won! The point of this review was about a 1969 GTO.

8th Apr 2006, 08:42

Isn't it funny that this poster is bragging about "not messing with American muscle" while bragging about his Australian car?

As for his challenge to rice rockets I have only one thing to say: see you on the curves (or not in your case)

8th Apr 2006, 18:25

Last summer there was an early generation GTO car show in my town... dedicated to that one model. This conglomeration of reviews having nothing to do about the 1969 GTO is pretty uninteresting to say the least. It would be nice to hear actual owners comments... mechanical, body etc on only this model.

What was cool about the car show was seeing convertibles and the judges grouped together. It was neat talking to the owners. I could care less about Civics, Australian cars which mean nothing as far as I am concerned.

I can add some viewpoints on this model myself... I am kicking myself for passing on my best friends 1969 Convertible for only $3000 in the early 80's! He is also sad he sold it for a Thunderbird!

23rd Jun 2006, 20:41

What is also amazing is the rariety of the 3 domestic models, probably equaling $100,000 per car in todays market in stock form.

24th Jun 2006, 18:12

Ha a Honda couldn't even tighten my lug nuts on my f-350. But the Gto is one hell of a car I saw one once it was the best looking muscle car I have seen in my life.

29th Aug 2007, 01:27

Can someone explain this to me? Little ricers are very expensive, & new cars depreciate $1000s in value the moment they're driven off the lot.

Why do people who buy these cars new go on & on about the incredible fuel mileage? They're spending $4000/year, with hefty interest, to save $500-1000 in gas.

I don't get it.

25th Aug 2008, 22:22

I don't care what people driving Honda's etc. say about their cars. Congratulations on spending thousands of dollars in a car that's value will never go up. Otherwise thousands of dollars in wasted money. Put that money into any muscle car and you'll get it back.

And for people who say their Honda's could kill a muscle car on the track is wrong. Sure they might not have the handling of a Honda, but they have out of turn acceleration and reach top speed quicker making them faster on the track.

A stock Corvette completed one lap of a track quicker than a stock Ferrari because it had better acceleration and got to a higher speed quicker than the Ferrari. In case any ricers don't know, a stock ferrari is better than any of your cars will ever be.

10th Jan 2009, 15:57

Nothing beats good old fashioned American muscle! I'm 20 years old and (supposed) to be in to the rice tuners such Civics and Skylines of this generation, but I'm not, I love American muscle; the 69 Charger R/T, 70 Judge GTO, Yenko Camaro, Hemi Cuda and others! Personal favorite - The Judge GTO!