I am about to buy a 2005 Grand Scenic for £3.5K. After reading previous comments, am I making a mistake?
Reply to previous comment; If you have read all the comments, then you already know the answer. I have in total from Feb 12th this year spent a total of £937 in repair bills on a car less than 5 years old.
Agree with the previous poster, save your money and buy something else. I'm the chap who is faced with a £1400 repair bill by the way. After the car being in the garage 2 days, I have just had a phone call from the dealer to say delivery of the part will be another 5 working days. I can only imagine somebody in France is hand crafting me a new wiring loom out of Platinum or some other precious metal.
Dealer is also adamant that there are no courtesy cars available. I work shifts, so cannot rely on public transport, so this is a major PITA! So aftersales service also poor.
In addition to the post I made earlier, the engine, though powerful, is quite noisy at motorway speeds, and has quite poor economy. Mine averages ~27mpg, although this may be par for the course for a 2.0lt Auto.
Now missing my Zafira, which I had for 6 years from new without any issues, apart from general wear and tear!
Bought a Megane Oasis 1.6 from new in 2005 - was impressed with the spec of the car. Plenty of room, full sun roof, economical, smooth ride etc.
Started having problems with the air bag warning light remaining on when the car was less than 1 year old.
Dealership advised the problem was a faulty connector on the "wiring loom".
The car is now 5 years old, 36500 miles on the clock, 10 repair shop visits for 4 new connectors, 4 new wiring looms... Renault now tell me I must be doing something unusual in the car (doesn't everyone sit in and adjust their seat?) because statistically it's impossible for their product to be faulty that many times!!!
Also had two new windows motors.
New cam belt.
2 new ignition coils - misfiring problems.
Although customer service is good (it needs to be), I would definitely NOT buy a Renault again.
I bought a 55 plate Grand Scenic 1.9 dci in '06. It was 9 months old and had 10k on the clock.
I have had three yrs / 30k miles of great motoring. I couldn't have been more impressed with the car.
Then the last 13 months have been spent trying to get a main dealer to diagnose and fix the cause of an incredibly dangerous random & intermittent power loss, which typically strikes in low gears / lower revs.
They have no idea. None whatsoever. There is a total reliance on the error messages on the computer, which isn't fixing the problem. Conclusion - deeply flawed design.
I look forward to leaving the Renault Owners Fraternity sometime next year.
We have exactly the same problem with our Grand Scenic 1.9dci - a sudden loss of power in low gears, lasting for a few seconds, then power regained. Does anyone know what could be causing this?
Bought a 4 year old 2004 model Scenic 1.5 DTi. 20K on the clock then, and +90K now.
Issues have been:
Tired battery set off lots of dash messages / about the electric brake (blame the original battery, not the car..)
Air con pump didn't turn and the belt was running over a stationary pulley. It got a bit hot before I noticed and lots of rubber smoke... (quite expensive, but got the cam belt changed at the same time).
Trunk lock gave up the ghost (Ebay £40).
Driver's window clip (a common problem I'm just sorting) Ebay £10 and about to fit!
My conclusion: Good basic car, but let down by minor parts (from suppliers to Renault).
Renault need to give more ATTENTION TO DETAIL.
Would I buy again: ALL cars have problems. Are the above issues reason not to buy a Renault again - probably not.
I bought a 05 1.6 Grand Scenic in 2007. It was a great car until 55k. Since January 2010 I have spent almost 3000 euro on repairs, from the gear box to wiper arms, motors for windows and that's without a service.
So don't buy one (if you're lucky enough to find this post before hand). Or you could set up a standing order with your local Renault service department!
My Renault Scenic 1.5 dCi has just come up with a new problem today, it stuttered a bit when I was changing up a gear, then the service light came on along with the engine management light and a warning message saying check emissions. I have had many problems with this car in 3 years, but not so many "faults" have ever shown at the same time. Don't buy Renault.
Renault Grand Scenic 1.5 dCi Privilege Tomtom.
Have had the car some 6 weeks on Motability for my wife. Official fuel economy figures suggest 47.1 mpg. Have driven a 1.4 petrol Micra, 1.6 auto petrol Note, 1.6 petrol Zafira and 1.3 diesel Astra. In ALL cases, have equaled or exceeded official urban mpg figures.
Unfortunately, despite no changes to my driving, passenger numbers or routes, have managed barely between 32-43 mpg - atrocious figures for a 1.5 diesel.
Also Renault seem at odds to explain why the so called "massive", "wide", "huge" large ad Infiniti 'cooled' glovebox, can barely hold 3 -THREE - cans of 330 ml Pepsi!
It is absolutely useless and smaller than the large 9 litre glovebox of our last Nissan Note. NOBODY seems to be able to explain why there is so much plastic moulding within the alleged 13+ litre glovebox compartment of our Grand Scenic privilege?
All suggestions welcome!
Bought my Grand Scenic 1.9 dCi new in 2004, shortly after they were first released. Six years later & 75K miles, I'm very pleased with its performance. However, it hasn't been without issues.
1. Front passenger window regulator (replaced under warranty).
2. Glow plug failure (diagnosed & replaced with help from the Internet).
3. EGR valve seized (Renault dealer about 350 quid).
The EGR fault is quite common on the diesels, & can lead to turbo failure. This can end with a bill for a new engine. My symptoms were a noticeable loss in power throughout the gears.
On many of the Renault specific forums, owners are advised to ignore the 18K service interval & have the oil & filter changed every 9/12K. Good quality oil is also recommended, as the turbo bearings share this.
I also experienced a number of issues related to water ingress behind the dash. This was due to the drainage holes becoming completely blocked, which resulted in a tray full of water sloshing around at the back of the engine. I invested in a Haynes manual & cleaned them myself. If I hadn't dealt with this in time, the wiring loom would have become corroded, & then the electrical gremlins would have had a field day.
Would I recommend my car? Difficult one. The residual value seems to be extremely poor. So picking one up relatively cheap should be quite easy. This would be the first condition. Be prepared to dabble in a little car maintenance from time to time. Even some preventative measures (checking for blockages, investigating new noises etc). Possibly having to spend many hours on various internet forums looking for answers.
Finally, be prepared to have the car serviced more often. If the 9 or 12K miles come round before the years out, then bite the bullet & either do it yourself or pay a mechanic. Don't wait till the Renault recommended 18K.