27th Oct 2011, 20:20
I got a kick out of comment 07:15. A few years ago a kid in a Tundra hit my Dodge Dakota. When the police asked us if we could move our vehicles, my Dakota started right up. The radiator wasn't even busted. The Tundra had a buckled frame, and the engine was sagging on the ground underneath it. It was hauled away on a flatbed (Ford) tow truck. After seeing that, there's no way I'd buy any Japanese truck.
28th Oct 2011, 13:38
Oh boy... here we go again with stories to try and prove that somehow, anything Japanese must be inferior. Ironic seeing as how all of the so-called American trucks are now stuck together with a LOT of imported parts. Some have well over 50% of their components imported. On the other hand, over 85% of the Tundra is made in the good ole' USA using AMERICAN parts at an AMERICAN factory. Yeah - that's right - the Tundra as of now is absolutely the most American-made truck you can possibly buy, so if some of you want to claim you drive an American truck, then fine. But if it's not a Toyota Tundra, then it's not as American, sorry.
29th Oct 2011, 07:34
If I am going to buy a truck and insure one, I want a good one to haul and tow my boat. We prefer a loaded 3/4 ton Ford. The new ones are fantastic.
29th Oct 2011, 11:37
And again, Japan specs the vehicle components. Who and where the screws are turned has zero relevance. I have a LS1 engine, so if the engine was assembled to my GM spec, it does not matter what human on earth anywhere tightens the fasteners. As long as they adhere to the correct torque spec and use the exact grade fasteners, also to spec. When I was losing Honda trans, does that mean America assemblers can deviate from corporate spec and put whatever trans in they want? Actually, I wish they did! As this is an old Camry review, maybe it's time to start discussing cars vs trucks and buses as well.
31st Oct 2011, 19:56
No Japanese company has ever built a truck comparable to the even the worst American manufacturer's offerings. In our area, we have 40-year-old F-150's still on the job. Japanese vehicles would rust away to nothing in that length of time.
My former boss bought a new Dodge Ram in 1984. When I ran into him recently, he was still driving it. Over a quarter million miles and going strong.
Our longest-lasting Japanese vehicle was junked after 8 years. Our longest-lasting domestic is still going strong after 56 years.
1st Nov 2011, 12:16
13:38 I wonder if the Toyota emblems are Made in U.S.A. If I buy a new Toyota, I want an American flag emblem on mine, since it's a domestic.
1st Nov 2011, 14:26
This conversation is just like all the other Toyota reviews I've read on here, meaning they are all polluted with import/domestic commentary. If you don't like Toyotas... then stop commenting on Toyota reviews. if you don't like domestic cars, then stop commenting on domestic car reviews.
1st Nov 2011, 17:26
It is a car survey, and comparisons are inevitable. How do you establish a benchmark to compare to otherwise? In fact each review asks what was owned previously.
2nd Nov 2011, 19:37
I just can't help but find it just a tad funny that time after time, there are so many comments from people who clearly despise Japanese cars for no real good reason, and have probably not ever owned one, and then come onto sites like these and bash them to bits, making claims of "how awful" they are, when in reality that sort of claim is completely opposite of reality. Every single Toyota truck and car we have owned - incidentally one of them being a '92 Camry - were nearly flawless, used, and abused, and yet ran for 100's of thousands of miles. Not only that, ALL of the other people I know - including friends, families, and co-workers who have owned them - have also had the same universally positive experience.
5th Nov 2011, 13:56
19:37. We now own new Mazdas after owning Toyotas and Hondas. Our family had issues with engine, trans and brakes. We just bought a Mazda 6 and a Mazda 3, so some have switched to other imports. I have a 2010 Edge SEL, which is great. My opinion of a well made car is just getting fluid filters and tires, not engine sludging, warped rotors and trans.
8th Nov 2011, 20:16
I'd say we are pretty well qualified to make a reasonably sensible comparison between domestic and imported vehicles. Since 1965, my family has owned over 40 domestics and 6 imports. No domestic ever required a repair before 100,000 miles. None of the imports hit 60,000 miles without massive repairs. We no longer buy imports.
9th Nov 2011, 12:23
Just so that we are able to follow your claim, let's get this straight. Your family has had over 40 "domestics" in 46 years, and each one of your families "domestics" had over 100,000 miles. You changed "domestics" once every 1.15 years. Why is that? If they were so reliable, why did your family need to change to another "domestic" once every 1.15 years?
And each one of these domestics were driven over 100,000 miles, wow. 40 domestics each times 100,000 miles, wow, that's 4,000,000 miles minimum.
40% of your domestics are imported from Canada, Mexico and Germany.
50% of domestically owned Chrysler is 50% foreign owned (Italian).
GM's 3.1's, 3.4's and 3.8's are renowned for intake failures, head gasket failures.
Add the 2.2 for head gasket failures. These engines were installed on most GM vehicles.
Ford's have engine (3.8) and transmission failures, as well as sub-frame rust-outs.
Chrysler minivans had transmission, pulley and engine failures.
Sounds really reliable to me. I guess these issues are all considered minor to you.
9th Nov 2011, 17:36
I noticed in today's news that Toyota recalled yet another half-million-plus cars because of very serious safety defects, such as steering failure. It amazes me that anyone who can read still buys these cars. It's obvious Toyota has very poor build quality.
10th Nov 2011, 11:56
Wow. Same person posted the exact same comment on two different Toyota reviews. Well, all I can say is that anyone can do a quick little search online and take a gander at just how many recalls domestic automakers have had over time. That pretty much settles this debate, because they've had the overwhelming majority of those recalls. So once again people claiming that Toyotas are bad lose the argument for the umpteenth billionth time.
10th Nov 2011, 13:53
People act like it's uncommon to have more that one or two new cars at a time. We have 5 late models, so we have easily had over 40 cars in our household. We are not uncommon. Lots of people have a SUV or 2, a truck and a fun weekender. Why are we reading about a 92 Camry then? It's an interesting site, and we read many reviews on here. We have both imports and domestics.
27th Oct 2011, 11:58
Why would hooking up a Tundra to a F-250 prove anything? They aren't in the same class. The Tundra is a direct competitor to the F-150. They are both almost the same in comparison with just about the same horsepower, torque, and so on. My Dad has one of the old Tundras - and yes - he uses it for "real" work. The difference is that unlike the F-150 he had before it, that started having serious issues at 125,000 miles, the Tundra has had zero problems, and just passed the 255,000 mile mark.