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To the ship man. Did you know that the cars are not ready to go until they have their PDI at the dealer. I have tried before to drive one off a dealer lot before it has been inspected and made ready to sell and it did the same. The car does not come out of the factory ready to go for hundreds of miles... they do this to keep the car packaged together for shipping. Now I have had a few cars right out of the factory and they were prepped from the start because my family was taking delivery from the factory... but the average car is not prepped out of the factory.
True, but they all have to be loaded and driven onto car carriers and then to the dealerships and then driven off. Its pretty telling when they are not as good in this stage as in the historic past. Brand new... with issues.
Most DOMESTICS ARE prepped from the factory. Every Ford I have ever bought has been RIGHT OFF THE TRUCK. NO dealer prep. NO messing around with "setting" anything. If Toyota is THAT shoddy at the factory, it's no wonder people are having so much trouble with them. If the factory can't build a car that will RUN, then Heaven help the poor buyer who has to rely on some high-school dropout with an IQ of 60 at a Toyota dealership in Podunk, Mississippi to make his Camry run "right".
I do not own a Toyota... All I know is that when I bought a new Honda and it came off the delivery truck at the dealer it needed some assembly such as fluids added... wiring connecters put on... hubcaps installed..etc. The car isnt even broken in and is covered with shipping tapes and plastics.
17:33 half way to the top? I bought my last Toyota in 2005 and now have new 2007 GM's...seems indicative that a lot of us staunch import only buyers are saying we are fed up. I bought my first new Toyota in 1977 a Celica GT. That was a well made auto and started a long ownership history. They were made better less volume and with more care. Imports were fine until recently in my opinion. My best years late 70's to late 99. So what is wrong? I was buying 2 at at a time and then saw quality diminish and get very expensive mechanically and breaking down. I'll look again in a few more years, but it will take an awful lot to get me back.
Maybe you're the one in denial, you should watch the video about the sequoia that was posted. or are you just too afraid to see the truth?
Toyota isn't as good as many think nor is GM as bad as as many think. and the gap is closing in the last few years. and the media making front page stories of any ford recall and not even printing any honda recall doesn't help.
We also must remember that for some people a little repair thinking that toyota is flawless hurts the imagine. that very repair on a pontiac and GM is okay. for others is the other way around. you spend $400 on a honda repair and you say that every car has its issues no matter what. that same repair on a mercury and mercury is junk.
And knowing that a dodge will not go bad if you take care of it, then you take care of it. but if you think toyota is king, then you won't take care of it as well. you also must remember that.
I spent 400 dollars on my Honda at 228,000 miles for a tune up. At 252,000 miles now I have not seen the mechanic for any repairs since the tune up in May.
What year is your Honda? Our point is look at the newest ones. My 2002 was my worse car ever... My 80-90's were fine.
Yes it is a 1994 Honda, but our 1999 Honda Accord is just as reliable and we have found the same to be true with our friends and relatives with a 2002 and 2006 Accord. You've got to remember that the engine technology has not drastically changed. 1994 has a 2.2 and the 1999 has a 2.3...2006 has the 2.4... I have not seen much at all go wrong with these engines. This is just my experience. And if they are not as reliable as the 1994 I am sure not going to go out and buy a Pontiac G6 or a Ford Fusion...I'd still rather enjoy a nice Accord any day.
Camry is number 3 in sales in the USA...if gas ever stabilizes it will interesting to see if people will return to buying what they prefer again. I refuse to be herded into the little econo blah vehicles... I cannot lose passion over driving even if the fuel prices are unreasonable. I moved closer to work and feel fortunate to not compromise.
I would wait til 2008 and buy a 2008 Tahoe, Envoy or even a Silverado with the new upcoming Hybrid models and have a fully usable SUV or new Truck. If you are so environmentally conscious and that is so important... sell your car now. Take a bus, public transportation, ride a bicycle or walk to work. Or car pool in a larger SUV hybrid and fill it with co workers during the week. But again buy the new Hybrids.
I am not concerned about gas mileage. I want a comfortable, good overall performar and bought a GM. They are great to drive and reliable. Its cheaper to buy gas then expensive import down time and mechanical repairs in my opinion.
My Honda never has down time...sorry.
20:09 I meaunt I had many problems with my 2002...not that I had none.