14th Mar 2007, 15:59
I'd take ANY 14-year-old domestic over ANY new Toyota any day. Just look at all the problems Toyota is having.
3rd Apr 2007, 12:14
Comment 12:25 says it all. BAD Toyota, GOOD Ford. Thanks for being honest. My family has also owned Toyota and Ford. The Fords are better... PERIOD.
9th Apr 2007, 18:39
Having driven a Camry and a Fusion, I can assure you, Ford DID NOT try to "copy the way Camry drives". If it had, the huge numbers of people flocking to buy the Fusion would NOT be buying them. The Fusion drives like a $40,000 European sports sedan. The Camry drives like a granny-mobile. To compare a Camry to the solid, reliable and infinitely better handling Fusion is laughable. I guess that's why in our area 90% of all Camrys are purchased by elderly people.
10th Apr 2007, 09:00
18:39 is just another baseless comment with no facts to back it up. NOBODY is 'flocking' to buy anything Ford makes, which is why they're posting the worst losses in their history.
Here's an actual fact instead: the Camry and the Accord have taken turns being the best-selling car in the U.S. for many years. The Fusion drives like a $40,000 European sedan? Yeah, and the 500, or Taurus, or whatever that piece of junk is drives like a Ferrari too I'll bet?
They may or may not have tried to copy a Camry (they should have), but whatever the idea was, it failed. The Camry has won years and years worth of awards and is head and shoulders above the new, unproven Fusion. You have nothing to back up your opinions. If the Fusion proves reliable for about the next 20 years, like the Camry's have, and sells like the Camry, then you can start comparing it to a Camry. Right now it's just another attempt by Ford to climb out of the DEEP rut they're in and nothing more. It'll probably wind up being a gladly forgotten, problem ridden waste of money just like most of Ford's cars, like the Contour for example.
10th Apr 2007, 12:00
Huge numbers flocking to buy Fusions? Too funny. Yeah, get back to us when the Fusion reaches Camry's 400,000+ units per year.
17th Apr 2007, 21:23
Read the 2006 Camry reviews and then try raving about how great Camrys are. Even the biased consumer magazines (long in the pocket of the Japanese) are rating Camry as LESS reliable than the Ford Fusion.
18th Apr 2007, 22:11
Judging from the owner reviews, the OWNERS are rating Camry as less reliable than Ford!!
19th Apr 2007, 08:50
How can that be? After all, everyone knows (according to you) that no domestic manufacturer can get a fair shake with any magazine, reporter, or news program in America even though their quality is so clearly superior.
Keep dreaming. There is a REASON that these various outlets continually rate the Japanese cars higher than the domestics, and it's not payoffs.
19th Apr 2007, 19:29
What gets me is people that criticize an entire manufacturer and yet comment that they cannot afford the higher end models as they indicate in the same paragraph. I can afford a Camry and have driven a co workers and was glad I drive a higher end domestic with better performance handling and enjoyment to drive. I would suffer a little resale on a Toyota even it it possessed any of these elements.
20th Apr 2007, 05:05
22:11 No the owners around the country are buying Camry's by the hundreds of thousands and driving right on past the Ford dealerships. Just watch the sales. Camry's will continue to sell well, like always, and Ford will continue to struggle to unload their junk.
20th Apr 2007, 11:22
The number one vehicle sold in America is Ford... where do you get your facts from? There are millions on the road not just hundreds of thousands... trust me there are Fords available. Sounds like you have somewhat of a bias its best being realistic with information and factual.
20th Apr 2007, 14:58
This is a Camry board. You will discover this by reading the heading.
And please tell us which is the #1 CAR sold in America. Taurus? Fusion? Impala? No, of course not, it's a CAMRY.
And few people cross shop F-150's and Camrys.
20th Apr 2007, 22:18
Yeah...Ford sells 1 million Tempos a year and 5 million Tauruses a year. They are by far the best selling car in the world and may I add kingdom come...
YEAH RIGHT! Maybe the Ford F-series, but nothing else. I like the Ford Econoline, but you cannot market it as a family sedan unless you think the club wagon is a family sedan. I should probably add that in every model range of an Accord or Camry they have at least a million on the road. There are probably 2 million or more 2002-2006 Camry's on the road... You cannot brush those facts away.
21st Apr 2007, 20:36
You also can't brush away the fact that from 2002 thru 2005 there are ALMOST TWICE as many bad reviews of the Camry on here than of the Taurus.
22nd Apr 2007, 09:24
You also can't brush away the fact that half the bad Camry reviews are suspicious in nature, especially the ones claiming the car is a death trap or painfully slow.
22nd Apr 2007, 22:01
No, you may not be able to brush away the fact that there are a lot of Camrys on the roads, but if you read the Camry reviews you'll see that it isn't BRUSHING, but TOWING that most of them seem to need.
22nd Apr 2007, 22:04
In our area Fusions are selling as fast as they hit the lots. Camry sales are declining in spite of huge discounts because people are finally wising up to their poor quality and lack of reliability. A comparable Fusion V-6 here is selling for about 5 grand MORE than a Camry.
23rd Apr 2007, 19:56
I went from Toyota to Honda/Acura and now GM. If you are going to rant and rave how great a Camry is at least upgrade to an Acura. They are much better equipped and excellent performers. Later you can upgrade to GM top of the line models and not be in the shop as frequently with any of the aforementioned models.
27th Apr 2007, 20:07
GM uses no computers? You must be a kid or in the stone age. Read about Onstar diagnostics reports that I receive each month every moment my new vehicle is in operation just for starters. By the way they were computer controlled back in the 80's.
28th Apr 2007, 12:32
22:04 The Fusion isn't selling even close to as well as the Camry, and it never will. Toyota just passed GM, selling over 100,000 more vehicles, and they are now the best selling auto manufacturer in the world. You big 3 guys can whine about it all you like, but Toyota is in full command, and has successfully taken the final step in being the best. They are the highest quality, and finally now the best selling. This will be my last comment here, as Toyota has completely won. Congratulations to Toyota, and thanks for selling me 3 vehicles in the last 16 years that have been absolutely perfect. I'll continue to buy them. GM, well, sayonara.
29th Apr 2007, 08:43
Ford F Series sell the most vehicles in America. With your logic the best selling is the best quality and the only vehicle to buy. There is a niche that middle America will purchase based on pricing, value and influences such as high fuel pricing. That does not mean that the vehicles are the highest quality or most desired. There are many vehicles that I feel I would personally rather own and drive that are better than Toyota or Honda... There are some great high end domestics if you can afford them and to randomly make a cross the board comment is unwarranted. The same goes with imports of course. I feel fortunate that there are more choices than basic economy cars, basic sedans and basic SUV's. There is a demand and a segment for those vehicles. There are also those want convertibles, sports cars, luxury SUV's and trucks instead of another non descript sedan to ride around in for a few years. Gas is nearly $3 a gallon... I notice it as well at the end of the month when I pay my credit card, but still value the driving experience more than buying a basic appliance. I am sure I am not alone with this opinion.