9th Jul 2007, 11:36

I wonder what diesel engine you're talking about. If you compare the 2006 (2007 not available) Golf manual TDI 1.9 liter diesel. The EPA mileage is 37/44, 33/44 for automatic. real mileage with the Prius is like 46-48 mpg (EPA is 60/51), the tdi manual is around 40 mpg, tdi automatic like 38 mpg. The 1.9 100 hp motor the largest of the VW diesels on the Golf gave a whopping 177 ft/lbs of torque. The Prius which is an automatic gives 110 hp, and 295 ft/lbs of torque. The Prius goes 0-60 in 10.2 sec., the Golf zips to 0-60 in 10.4 sec manual, and 11.5 sec automatic. True cost to own for a Golf is like 34,000 over 5 years, vs 28000 for a Prius. The Golf is a compact car vs the Prius is mid sized. The Prius is a Toyota, the Golf is a fall apart VW. I'm still wondering why people are buying the Prius like crazy and don't like the Golf now being renamed the Rabbit because of the Golf's great reputation.

9th Jul 2007, 19:36

I guess the solution for some people is just to pay for diesel fuel instead of gasoline. Guess what? IT'S STILL OIL. And you're going to pay through the nose for it. The Prius may not be perfect, but it's lightyears ahead of a diesel Volkswagen.

10th Jul 2007, 06:33

Have you just made all this up off the top your head? Most of it is completely fictional!!

Ans as for the Prius having less emissions than any diesel, I suggest you take a look at the new Mini diesel... lower emissions, far superior fuel economy & much better performance.

10th Jul 2007, 21:22

On the way home from work today, I saw a Prius limping along in the right lane with the hazards on, trying to make it far enough to coast down the nearest off-ramp. This is Toyota's best technology?

19th Sep 2007, 12:10

The Prius is Toyota's most reliable model to date and is listed as Consumer Report's number 1 car in consumer satisfaction.

Do you know why the Prius you saw was "limping?" It could have had a flat- or another mechanical issue. No car is perfect, but Toyota has a solid reputation for innovation and quality.

Believe me, I've heard many more horror stories about VW models.

26th Sep 2007, 21:35

Also, diesel cars smell bad & are loud.

16th Jul 2008, 20:06

I saw 2x 2008 VW Jetta TDI's with black smoke.

18th Apr 2012, 10:26

Dude, I'd bet my 1990 Lincoln Town Car is environmentally better in the long run than a Prius, but more costly to run because of gas costs. At least I'm polluting the air with good old fashioned CO2, and not nickel, cadmium, lead, and lithium (which can be found in those crappy Prius batteries that only last like 2-3 years). Plus my car will last far longer than one, and be less costly and harmful to the Earth to maintain.

If you want a Prius, buy one to save you money at the pump, not to look like you actually care about the planet, because the Toyota Prius is probably one of the worst polluters out there.

31st Oct 2012, 13:48

Your 1990 Lincoln Town Car is cleaner and more eco-friendly than a Prius, eh?

The Prius has been on the market since 1997. By now, tens of millions of miles have traveled on the Prius, collectively speaking.

You can hate all you want, but the truth is the Prius battery is warranted for 8 years and 150,000 miles with very FEW failures before then. And after the warranty runs out, taxicabs in NYC and California are getting 350,000 miles + out of the battery. A rebuilt battery costs $895, but you can replace the individual cells for $30 each.

1st Nov 2012, 07:21

Actually, you are the one polluting the air with CO2 (carbon dioxide).

Your "environmentally better" Town Car is polluting the air with not-so-good CO (carbon monoxide), and by many times more than the Prius that you claim to be less eco-friendly.

1st Nov 2012, 20:14

Sounds all good until you read about the coal that was burnt to make all the hybrid batteries at time of manufacture, again and again, as hybrids gain sales over time.

Read the problem with air pollution and hybrids at: http://www.ehow.com/m/about_7227678_pollution-caused-electric-cars.html

2nd Nov 2012, 10:22

So... coal was burnt to make batteries huh? So exactly how is that an argument? All cars are made out of steel, plastic, glass, and a myriad of composite materials. How exactly are those made? Why - they're made using electric power... which is generated either by coal, wind, solar, or nuclear power - the SAME as for batteries or anything else for that matter. That's not a real point or argument...

3rd Nov 2012, 02:59

So you agree it's not green like other cars. Is what you are saying? It's also not green again when the batteries need replaced. Multiply that times many thousands of cars sold. Drive less; it's more healthy to walk to work or ride a bike; that is being green. Mass transit, car pool or move next to work as well. We did. I know someone that bought a Prius for MPG. They drive over an hour each way to work. We work 5 minutes away, and can walk to work and shopping. Plus the health benefit and no drive through fast foods on the way. That's being green.

26th Jan 2013, 23:27

A "Green" car is something hybrid haters and the misinformed label it. The Prius is just a car that happens to be an engineering genius that uses electric power along with a very efficient gas engine. The Prius will get 50 MPG, emit tons less emissions and last longer than traditional vehicles. The hybrid batteries rarely fail and are 99% recyclable. What's hard to recycle and harmful to the environment - lead acid batteries. You know, the big ones in non-hybrid vehicles? So let's agree to move on past the battery argument.

27th Jan 2013, 11:32

First of all, there's no real proof that CO2 is actually bad for the planet. Methane from the meat industry is way worse, but nobody says anything, because it can't be used as a weapon against the middle class.

Second of all, why do people buy into the environmentalist movement, when all the people who run it are just elitists who live totally inefficient lifestyles themselves. Look at Al Gore, his house uses more electricity than a small city, and he drives around in big, gas guzzling European saloons to get to his speaking functions. Guys like him want the middle class to have nothing more than small, bland 4-cylinder econoboxes, just to make room for guys like him to live more extravagantly.

Don't listen to those environmentalist groups and the IPCC, their data is obviously skewed to serve the interests of guys like him. It's all just class war, nothing more or less.

28th Jan 2013, 08:46

I suspect a Prius size vehicle was bought more for MPG as its true purpose. Many live in outlying areas; more house, schools vs inner city as the primary reasons vs green.

Let's be real here. Gas is nearly 4 dollars a gallon. Yet another view is to look at it as if gas were super cheap. Would it matter to drive a Smart car? In my area a while back, people were in panic mode over gas prices. As soon as it stabilized, people walked away from their deposits. Heaven forbid cutting back on distance commuting, walking, biking or taking mass transit. I bought a motorcycle that gets 41 MPG. It's barely warmed up in my 6 minute commute to work.