2nd Jan 2008, 14:04
To the guy with the VXR, you're talking about thrashing a car that is using past technology and performance, you want to spend a fortune on a VXR go ahead. You've got to remember not everyone can afford a VXR or ask to borrow daddy's car. I own a '91 GT and fair enough it's a nippy little car, probably not as fast or as quick as your VXR, but doesn't it make you feel a bit sick knowing that a car that cost a fraction of yours and is probably over 15 years older is still managing to, nigh on, keep up with you? Because I would be sick as hell if I spent that much money on a VXR. Let the people who are interested in owning one of these cars ask their questions so the honest ones can answer.
2nd Jan 2008, 15:04
The GT is a quick little car, but it won't nigh on keep up with a VXR, it won't get very close at all. And I would feel better spending the money on a VXR knowing I have something new, reliable, modern, stylish. Probably the same as the GT was 15 years ago, but not today.
3rd Jan 2008, 06:29
Are vauxhalls really reliable and stylish, I thought they were unreliable, repmobiles.
3rd Jan 2008, 11:18
The fact is I'm talking about the VXR, not all vauxhalls, and the VXR is all of these things. And most vauxhalls are reliable, well in my experience.
4th Jan 2008, 03:24
I've had 3 Vauxhalls in the past; a Corsa and 2 Vectras. All of them had endless faults; you would fix one problem and then something else would go wrong. I don't have any trust in Vauxhall anymore, even if its got 240bhp and is a fast hatchback. Bought a Honda and absolutely nothing has gone wrong in 2 years.
4th Jan 2008, 11:16
I'm the person that left the VXR comment. In response to.
"doesn't it make you feel a bit sick knowing that a car that cost a fraction of yours and is probably over 15 years older is still managing to, nigh on, keep up with you?"
That sentence made me laugh as I've already said when I raced one he was nowhere near me. They are two completely different worlds of performance. It would be like my VXR racing an M5 or a Merc CLS AMG. They just aren't in the same class.
And whoever timed 0-60 in 6.9, either started the stop watch 2 seconds late or stopped two seconds early. As for reliability, I've had my VXR for a year now; not a single problem and the engine and suspension aren't standard.
Fair point on Honda though. I owned a Type R for nearly three years and it never missed a beat.
11th Jan 2008, 04:52
Oh yes, it will definitely out accelerate the VXR with that power, but not match top speed. Oh and to VXR man, I've raced VXR's a couple of times in my WRX PPP, needless to say I won.
11th Jan 2008, 11:12
Those two comments are by the same person, first of all, trying to make the Starlet look good (which it isn't), and then trying to make the VXR look bad (which it isn't).
I very much doubt anyone has raced a couple of VXRs. I've only ever seen 5, and one of them is mine, let alone get in a suitable place to race them.
The WRX (with PPP kit) may be a bit faster than the VXR, but the VXR has many advantages over it, like much better looking, much better interior, better equipped, cheaper to buy, run, insure and service. There is hardly any difference between the VXR and a Subaru; the only real advantage a Subaru has is AWD, but I've added the Regal LSD to my VXR, along with a few more mods, taking it to just over 300bhp.
There are many reviews on the net saying that the VXR is easily the best hot hatch, and that it is a match for a WRX Impreza.
11th Jan 2008, 12:34
Well first of all I was only responsible for the second comment, second, I'm not trying to make anything look good or bad, I'm just adding the WRX PPP into the mix. Third, VXR's are not that uncommon, I have raced 2 and that shouldn't be too much of a surprise, but it was fun. And I can't believe you've only seen 5! And I didn't say the VXR wasn't a match for the WRX, I was talking about the PPP. And yes of course 300 bhp will out accelerate the WRX PPP, STI, maybe even an STI PPP 305bhp, but that's questionable, the gearing is a factor too.
12th May 2008, 22:49
My goodness there is some amount being posted here guys. 6.9 seconds to 60 in a 1.3/1.4 turbo is completely feasable, if you know anything about automotive engineering, aerodynamics play a very small role in short 1/4 mile sprints. I own a Renault 5 Gtt phase 2; it is tuned a little to around 175bhp and given its weight, would hit 0-60mph in around 6.5seconds all day long.
12th May 2008, 23:02
6.9 seconds to 60 in a 1.3/1.4 turbo is completely feasible. Aerodynamics play a very small role in short 1/4 mile sprints. I own a Renault 5 Gtt phase 2, it's tuned a little to around 175bhp and given its weight, would hit 0-60mph in around 6.5 seconds all day long.
2nd Jul 2008, 01:33
To the guys who are saying that GT Starlets are not a quick car, because they're a 1300 or for whatever other reasons; you clearly don't understand.
If you look it up on WhatCar stats, you will see the exact 0-60 time is 7.34 and running the 1/4 mile in 15.80 as standard. Also if you take a look on youtube.com or wherever, you will see GT Starlets/Glanzas with not a lot of mods eating Type Rs, Scoobys, Evos, Skylines etc mainly in 1/4 mile drags, but not all; some were on the roads and even motorways.
And to the guy with the VXR Astra; one of three things has happened:
1. It wasn't a turbo
2. The guy was a very bad driver
3. It was bog standard
Your VXR would have stung you about 15k with mods I suppose, and you could get a good GT Starlet for around 3-4k; that would leave 11k spare from what you spent, and if you put that 11k or even half of it into the Starlet, you wouldn't have a hope in hell of even getting near it in your VXR.
21st Jul 2008, 08:13
Your right about some of it, but looks are a matter of personal taste, they are not fact. And you are wrong about clock readings on 0-60, they don't start over reading til at least over 100 unless they are way out of calibration due to wrong wheel size.
2nd Sep 2010, 15:10
Man I have a Starlet EP 92, and it's all about the driver, I agree. With a ct9b or a td04 turbo, and great tuning, Evo's and STi's don't stand a chance. And it's a great handling car...
12th May 2012, 09:28
Hey, I am Rohan from Jamaica. I was reading a comment in which mention was made about engines being built for the Starlet that have the capacity to reach 500bhp. I would really like some information on this, as I have a 1991 1331cc Starlet that I want to upgrade. My email address is firstname.lastname@example.org