20th Sep 2013, 18:26

Do you sell coffee makers for a living?

Reason I ask is we always see the coffee maker/car comparison debate quite frequently on these Toyota comment threads.

Like somebody commented a couple days ago, this is a Tundra thread, the reliability for this truck is not on any list. Sales also don't come close to the "big 3's" trucks.

20th Sep 2013, 22:52

I remember that "weird economic vacuum" effect from my last Toyota. Trying to repair everything that went wrong with it, caused a lot of money to disappear from my bank account.

I think most of it was vacuumed straight to Japan.

22nd Sep 2013, 06:24

I simply look at what primary bank they use.

I would also say that anyone seeing any Toyota nameplate on any vehicle knows it's absolutely not American, and is foreign owned. You can work for someone, but the corporation gets the big money sent back to the country of origin. They hold the strings.

Personally our favorite Toyota (and it was quite popular on my college campus) was the late 70s Celica GT. Outstanding styling, taken off the Ford Mustang. Design excellence, and they sold well. I do not think even the Supra that came out shortly thereafter looked anywhere near as nice. After that, the styling went downhill.

I went to Datsun 280ZX in 1982, and its nameplate changed to Nissan. A very nice car that Toyota could have hopefully followed.

I am loyal to no one, as the money comes from me. If it's a sharp great import, I will buy. It may not be the badge you prefer. And we do the same with domestics. They have to be on their toes to get my money, as they well should be with 2014 models out. Brand loyalty with so many offerings today is out the window with each new buy.

It's not just price, it's features, benefits, and being fun to drive and own.