8th Jan 2009, 03:25
I have a 1983 Buick LeSabre Limited. It has now 312,000 plus miles on it. The engine has never been re-built or over hauled. It runs incredibly smooth and has tons of torque, and I can and have towed a lot of weight with it even going up hill, and it does so effortless. It has the much larger 307 V-8, which is a highly durable engine.
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25th Jun 2017, 03:32
Driving a slow, wallowing isolation chamber hardly counts as "enthusiastic" in my book. It's little more engaging of an experience than taking a Greyhound bus.
25th Jun 2017, 10:08
To some, driving the luxury land yachts of the late 50s to early 70s is a dream car. I had a Limo. Family loved it. The closest I came to that much later was a loaded High Top Conversion Van. If you take either on a long trip with family it is great. Just bring your gas cards.
25th Jun 2017, 16:51
Seems to me that somebody is trying to start the 'ole argument of old versus new. Putting down an old luxury liner and replying to a comment from 8 years ago.
26th Jun 2017, 03:32
I fail to see why the average midsized sedan is regarded as the epitome of an appliance, while malaise-era land barges are held in esteem by "enthusiasts". Any of the former cars offer a great deal more feedback and agility than something like this LeSabre.
26th Jun 2017, 10:02
More interior room, weight, and a more solid luxury car. Not thin sheet metal and firmer ride, selective or not. They ride better my opinion. A large Cadillac or even an older Lincoln Town Car. Take one on a long trip. They are more comfortable.
26th Jun 2017, 17:21
Be careful on the more interior room fact. Some people on here try to claim that a modern compact has more space than a full-size from the seventies- eighties.
26th Jun 2017, 21:39
Big body-on-frame cars tend to flex and creak. But setting that aside...
The fact that these cars are designed to isolate the driver from the road, is consistent with the purpose of an appliance: to make a domestic or mundane task as convenient and painless as possible.
27th Jun 2017, 15:44
Frame cars are solid. Unibody cars flex and creak. Talking classic cars. The older luxury cars are more roomy and solid. Love the rear wheel drive cars like the older Town Cars. Long wheel bases also improved the ride quality. They also took a lot of the mass and put on thinner sheet metal on modern cars to improve gas mileage. Please stay off compact car comparisons.
29th Jun 2017, 12:45
The old, long wheelbase, heavy cars are good for one thing: cruising down a straight and mostly level highway.
If you don't care about cornering, braking, ease of parking, gas mileage... then you will be perfectly happy with them!
29th Jun 2017, 17:41
Have another car for that. Not appealing all the time. Neither are thrifty, just serve different purposes. I drive 800 miles at times one way on the interstate to see family. 2 of us driving and swapping seats after a bite or refuel... Room, comfort, cold air and cruise control on. Utter comfort.
29th Jun 2017, 20:28
Gas mileage is the only thing in your comment that holds water. I've been driving an older Town Car for the past ten years and seem to have no problem with handling, braking, and cornering. It's called knowing how to drive a full-size car.
30th Jun 2017, 10:44
Never saw these luxury cars as an appliance. That description to me equates as a plain to and from work or store cheap vehicle for mundane tasks. Put many miles in them til they are worn out. Depreciation not a factor as they were very cheap to start with. Divide how many years you kept by the low entry cost and that's about all it served.
I wholeheartedly agree on the Town Cars. We had new ones in our family. Every weekend we drove to the Sourh Jersey shore over 100 miles each way. Luggage fits as most other things going to a shore house. Plenty of room for all. There's no hairpin curves or road courses for us. These cars actually do most of the work. Easy to drive and steer. Set it on cruise and try to keep under the speed limit. The best thing is the comfort and nice ride on the way there and return when tired. You aren't beat to death or crammed up; if you fret over fuel I guess it's an option.
1st Jul 2017, 01:37
"It's called knowing how to drive a full-size car".
Uh-huh. Does the term "unsprung weight" ring any bells with you?
1st Jul 2017, 12:19
Your unsprung weight issue isn't applicable here. If this was a performance full size car, say a Impala SS 409 Dual Quad car or a 421 Super Duty Pontiac Catalina 2+2, there's many ways to reduce weight. The latter you could checklist itemized racing parts straight from Pontiac on your new order form.
Running the national speed limit in Florida, many are at 70 mph, and you simply cruise. I like the whisper quiet, ice cold air, plush deep upholstery, steering with your fingertip, luxury full size comments. And more. If you are looking for a full size neck snapping performance car, there are ones such as the above. I don't think these luxury cars in this review are applicable. You can go with aluminum heads and driveline, lighter wheels, Swiss cheese the frame, take out the sound deadening, remove the power steering and brakes, remove the front sway bar, order aluminum bumpers and Plexiglas windows, radio delete, toss the extra seats, relocate the battery, and on and on for yours.
I am always curious what people drive when they make a comment like above. What full size do you have? Because I wonder why 0-60 times and handling come so much in play for your requirements. My experience has been straight line distance cruising with moderation into curves. These cars are at their best on a distant destination interstate with hours behind the wheel. I guess I could go rack and pinion steering, but why. Would love to hear what you have been driving to have this need to address mass issues. These are big cars and drive like a dream. Not Mini Coopers that have pushed out wheelbases to turn on a dime in congested traffic.
2nd Jul 2017, 19:53
Can't answer that question. I don't own a Tacoma. If I did own a pick-up, it would be a full-size, it's the way to go as far as trucks are concerned.
3rd Jul 2017, 00:39
A Damper Dynometer would tell if your luxury full size car may or may not need wheelie bars to address this earth shattering concern. I'd first out start with finite adjusting tire pressure to measure out the tire contact when warming up your slicks. Any one else run into this with your Town Car?