8th Dec 2009, 08:02

While you all are very passionate about all of your arguments, both right and wrong, let me remind you that this started as a review of a 2010 Genesis Coup 2.0 turbo. Why don't all of you keep your economic comments to yourself and save them for your congressman.

As far as the Genesis goes, I just bought a 2010 3.8 Track Edition Coup and it is a little cramped, but no more than any car of this class would be, I find the handling and power impressive, but a little stiff in the ride quality dept. (again, normal for this class).

The creature comforts are OK and buttons easy to access.

Oh, to the original reviewer, it is impossible to drive off without the key, you are mistaken. If you walk more than 100 ft. from the running car with the key in your pocket, then the car shuts down. The problem was that you just didn't know how the P.I.C system was supposed to function, which wasn't your fault, you had a salesman who was more interested in selling you a car than in making you understand how the car functioned. (you have to apply the brake for the push-button start to start the car.)

8th Dec 2009, 10:38

You are so right about the MBZ 300D, I'd like to shake your hand!

Nice to meet you sir. Yes the 300D's were definitely meant to last from the Egyptian days to 2012. While I love my Crown Vic and Grand Marquis to death, I would love to have a 300D, however they are becoming as rare as artifacts. I came across a 82' with 200,000 or so miles (which I know is break-in period for these cars), a few weeks back. It ran beautifully yet the body was eaten away badly by rust or else I probably would have picked it up. I also currently own a 91 300E. It can't even compare to a 300D. And about my Vic and Marquis. I always get approving and warm comments on them and my friends always say: "You get to ride around like you're in a Rolls Royce Phantom for barely any money spent".

8th Dec 2009, 10:49

Wrong. Consumer Reports has as many "recommended buys" in the Ford line up as Toyota does in theirs. The reliability rating of the Fusion is fully TWO LEVELS higher than Camry and one level higher than Accord. J.D. Powers top rated cars in long-term reliability are a Ford and a GM product. Also, the "Car of the Year" this year happens to be Ford. In addition, GM offers MORE cars with higher mpg ratings than Honda and Toyota COMBINED. Having the highest recalls for safety since the wheel was invented (as Toyota does) is HARDLY an indication of quality, so also is Honda's enduring legacy of bad transmissions.

8th Dec 2009, 14:49

Thank you... This person HAS been stating this brainwashing thing all over this site! They seem to forget the domestics got into trouble because of all the brainwashing they did to U.S. consumers about the "big and safe" SUV's. Oh, you have to have a HUGE vehicle just in case you need to take 8 people with you or haul half of Home Depot home at any given time. And you need 4 wheel drive in case you get more than 2 feet of snow and still decide that going to work is a good idea! Please, the American car companies wrote the book on brainwashing and consumers like this person ate it up like their grandmothers apple pie!! Look where they are now though!! HEH!!

8th Dec 2009, 15:14

Funny, this is Consumer Reports list of the top ten best selling vehicles in the U.S. NOT ONE GM car made the list!!... just a truck. Camry STILL is by far the top seller in the personal car category and darn near DOUBLES the sales of your Fusion!(so much for "top selling Fusion") I guess #10 is "top selling" to domestic lovers. Three Hondas and another Toyota are up there as well.

Yes the F150 is at the top, but we all know trucks are skewed with fleet sales and business use sales like contracting and construction. So the Fusion may rate 2 levels higher, but it sells 8 levels below the Camry... you know WHERE IT COUNTS!!

And you STILL are riding on one car here and there to say the domestics are so much better than the imports. AGAIN, the TOP FIVE brands for across the board quality are ASIAN. PERIOD!!! Yes Toyota ranks higher even with all the recalls... imagine that! These are facts, not desperate inaccuracies. I drive a Ford so I wish the domestics fared better. Facts are facts. Quoting J.D. Powers awards and Consumer Reports for a car here or there makes your argument look better, but doesn't really dispute the facts... the whole facts.

The car of the year is the Fusion Hybrid, which is a great feat of technology for sure. Ford could be the best if they really tried hard to produce a whole line as consistently dedicated to quality as the Fusion is. Of course they'd have to build more Mexican plants in order to do this now wouldn't they? Oh that's, right they are!

1 Ford F-Series pickup 334,922 436,022 1 -23.2.

2 Toyota Camry 285,069 379,270 3 -24.8.

3 Chevrolet Silverado pickup 261,142 402,191 2 -35.1.

4 Honda Accord 244,579 333,011 6 -26.6.

5 Toyota Corolla 240,755 307,071 4 -21.6.

6 Honda Civic 223,751 304,297 8 -26.5.

7 Nissan Altima 169,435 241,529 9 -29.8.

8 Honda CR-V 158,573 171,193 11 -7.4.

9 Dodge Ram pickup 155,467 213,684 5 -27.2.

10 Ford Fusion 148,045 128,381 20 +15.3.

8th Dec 2009, 17:45

Motor Trend named the Fusion that. Motor Trend is also probably the least reliable source for automotive information. Car and Driver on the other hand has put the Honda Accord on the 28th annual 10 Best List for the 24th time this year. The Fusion has some pretty big shoes to fill.

9th Dec 2009, 13:32

I always love it when import fans pick and choose their sources, then scream bloody murder when domestic fans do the same.

11th Dec 2009, 16:51

No, the key was in the pocket of the sales manager about 12 miles away at the dealership. They had to have someone bring it out to us to re-start the car. It ran just fine until my wife accidentally stalled the engine releasing the clutch. It can't be re-started without the key, but unless you kill the engine, you can drive it across the entire U.S. without the key after it is started.

16th Mar 2010, 21:08

I find it hard to believe that the poster of the original review has driven the turbo four with a stick shift; I found the gear shift so so, but worst of all, on upward shifts the engine speed did not go down when easing off the gas pedal, making smooth shifts impossible. The salesman admitted this was a problem on all the turbo fours, there was also a lot of vibration. I was told that the six does not have this problem?

6th Apr 2010, 07:24

I disagree with the comment "Honda, Nissan, and Toyota don't come close with sportiness" Honda type R. Nissan Skyline, 350z, 300zx, Sentra Spec V. Toyota Supra, and Celica... All just as sporty, or blow the doors off a Hyundai.