8th Jul 2007, 17:13
You can call them boring and dull, but they're still the most reliable, well built, longest lasting cars on the road. If you disagree, you are wrong.
10th Jul 2007, 16:35
Unless you drove a Nissan Altima or Honda Accord before you owned a Camry, then I understand why it might be slow. But if you are some domestic owner, the Camry runs circles around your old vehicle. Boring as heck? Yes! But the most boring? Not a chance.
BTW the whole Detroit airport is full of unsold Chrysler vehicles that will probably end up in rental fleets... so no Camrys sitting around in epic proportions... no.
11th Jul 2007, 13:22
I disagree with comment 16:35. Unless it's the V6 camry I doubt it can run circles around domestic vehicles and even the V6 isn't that powerful. My 13 year old domestic is rated at 205hp and 230ft/lb of torque. a newer V6 (not the 2007 model) camry is rated only 20hp more with less torque. I'm sure though that the camry would run circles around me :>
11th Jul 2007, 19:45
The V-6 Camry is faster than anything Ford, Chevy, or Dodge makes that also has a V-6 in it, as well as being a much more solid car.
12th Jul 2007, 12:35
That's why most of us opt for V8's in our domestics and upgrade even further from there. I liked my former Acura VTEC however and would buy that before any Camry.
12th Jul 2007, 21:28
The average owner of a V8 buys their vehicle because they think gas prices will get as low as 1$ again. Foolishness I tell you... bigger engines are just getting too expensive and you will pay dearly at the pump. The prices you see now are nothing of what's to come buddy!
13th Jul 2007, 21:53
If the government gets wise to the fact that the oil companies are price gouging everybody, maybe they'll do something about it, and gas will become cheaper (unlikely).
Even so, my V8 SUV is capable of running off E85, a lot of new cars/SUV's are hybrid or flex fuel. I might consider eventually buying a hybrid SUV if they make one that I like. American consumers need to get informed and realize driving a crappy tiny 50 horsepower econo boxes like a smart car ISN'T the only option. Most people want a good sized vehicle with good power, and there are options.
15th Jul 2007, 13:02
I think the government already knows, but with mr Bush in office he will give them pardons...Sorry, but it will be 200 years before our government catches the oil companies. Sorry.
18th Jul 2007, 16:21
21:28 A V8/V10 owner buys because of performance not because of a 4 cylinder economy minded mode. A V10 Viper is a prime example... interesting enough we got excellent mileage on our Viper RT/10 6 speed from Delaware to Florida on a trip on the interstate loping along at only 1700 RPM. Fuel economy however is not the main driving factor for true auto enthusiasts.
18th Jul 2007, 20:00
To 17:13, if Toyota is the best brand and outlasts all others, then can you explain why they are far from number 1 in quality ratings like J.D. Power & Associates? I know we are all wrong and you are right. Many of the new models like the Tundra have major engine problems, Camry has transmission problems and that is just to name a few. I think I will stick with good ole' Buick. They have a better warranty and are much better looking not to mention far more comfortable.
20th Jul 2007, 00:31
Is another American who has been taught that they should take an issue that affects 443 cars and make it into a case to go to war, and the Tundra, 33,000 cars we should bomb Tokyo. I am also wondering if this person even drives their Buick that often, as the seals on the engine fail often and need replacing a lot.
Look at your Buick. Doesn't it look like a 15 year old japanese car? I think they are finally catching onto something the japanese created 35 years ago.
20th Jul 2007, 15:43
Japanese quality cars of 35 years ago, which would be 1972--back in the days when Japanese cars were junk, cramped, nothing worked, and broke down all the time, but people bought them because they were cheap and got good mileage. Somebody is really living in fantasy land to hold these out as the pinnacle of quality!
This summer I drove a thousand miles across the mid-west, and to pass the time, counted up car models. I quit when I hit a ratio of 20 domestic vehicles to every 1 Asian car (and that includes japanese and Korean). Where are all of these japanese cars that "everybody" is buying???
20th Jul 2007, 17:13
00:31 Too bad Buick, as well as Ford, Chevy, and Dodge haven't caught on to another Japanese trend in auto manufacturing: QUALITY automobiles.
Any bigshots from the 'Big 3' (ha ha) reading here right now? Wonder why your company is selling out overseas and losing money by the ton? Here's the answer: it takes more than wishing you made good cars and copying Toyota designs to succeed. You have to actually take pride in what you sell to the public and build it to last. Go back to the drawing board, with absolutely everything. Then make sure it's not a piece of crap BEFORE you start trying to sell it to people.
That's what Toyota does, and that's why they're kicking your *** back to the stone age.
20th Jul 2007, 18:15
My Buick is an extremely reliable car and I put nearly 1,000 miles on it per month. My car is not the exception. For many of the last years Buick has been rated above Toyota in quality and probably still is. As far as the comment that my car looks like a '90's model Toyota, I take offense at that. If that were anywhere near true, I would not own my car. I don't think Toyota could design an attractive car if they had to. If they ever bring back the "Invisible Man" movies they should have him driving a Camry.
21st Jul 2007, 07:54
17:13 is wrong again, and doesn't understand that the reason American companies are losing money is because of high worker costs, despite the fact that they make great cars.
The Lehrer News Hour just reported it last night: workers' benefits cost an American car company an average of $73/hour per employee, while the average for a Japanese car company is only $43.
Japanese companies are the "Wal-Mart" of the car industry with no benefits, no unions, and low wages.
In his zeal to support Toyota, or perhaps his blind hatred of America, 17:13 seems to look forward to the day when the U.S. no longer manufactures anything, and all workers receive minimum wage "service industry" jobs.
Does 17:13 think that the loss of high-paying blue collar jobs in the U.S. won't affect him?
21st Jul 2007, 18:27
18:15 "For many of the last years..."
WHAT YEARS? I'll tell you what years... NONE.
Toyota as a company has has received higher ratings than Buick, with a PRECIOUS few exceptions for Buick, EVERY year for the last couple of decades.
EVERY one of the best selling auto magazines in the United States puts Japanese automobiles in the #1 spot for overall quality EVERY year.