2007 Toyota Camry XLE V6 3.5 V6 from North America

Summary:

The Camry I own - piece of garbage

Faults:

Bought the car approximately 10 days ago on June 25th for my wife.

Things that have gone wrong:

Day 4 of ownership - small slippage on a wet road after rainfall. I didn't feel the slip, but the VSC came on and applied break pressure to apparently stabilize the car. Once traction was regained, the VSC refused to turn off and the car starts to shake violently, so we drove another mile to see if it would disengage the brakes; never did. Had to pull over and restart the car... problem solved.

Day 6 of ownership - heading out of town and all of a sudden on the highway, the VSC, check engine light, and some unknown hazard light come on. I restart the car, and nothing happens so I take it to the dealership to find out what the problem is. Turns out it's an engine misfire of ALL 6 cylinders. The dealer seems puzzled and the codes are wiped and everything is fine.

Day 8 of ownership - My wife starts the car to head to work and once again, all of the dash lights come on. We take it to the dealer, and once again, cylinder misfire.

The car is now sitting in the dealer's shop waiting to be repaired. Apparently the dealer can't figure it out and the manufacturer wants a screen shot of the code to see if they can figure it out, so our car is currently being ran through a gauntlet of tests.

General Comments:

My initial impression with the car was a good one. I've always liked the Camry design albeit, a little boring; and my wife enjoyed all of the options the XLE trim came with. It literally has everything you can get; the navigation, bluetooth, hands free entry into the vehicle...etc.

The ride is extremely smooth; you hardly feel any road bumps. And the power delivery is like silk. I'm not partial to the quick, high revs of the engine however. It will easily hit 5k rpm when you give the accelerator a decent push.

The leather is very comfortable and having a hands free entry and push button start really simplifies things. The navigation is a tricky little feature, but is very accurate thankfully and is touchscreen too. The bluetooth is nice, but it seems like you have to strain to hear the person you're talking too and in return, scream into the system when in actuality, they can hear you perfectly.

The whole layout of the interior is very convenient with everything within an arms reach. Unfortunately there are some features that the car is lacking.

There is only one auto up/down window and that's the drivers side. The XLE only comes with 16 inch wheels and the dealer refuses install 17s on the car because of the tire pressure monitor system; it can be done they just don't want to have to reflash the computer. The XLE doesn't come with a rear spoiler, although I saw 2 XLE v4s in the back lot that had them, so it is a possibility. There is no hand brake; only the normal foot e-brake.

Overall, I honestly think the Camry is a great car... just not this one. We've owned plenty of new cars, and never had any "new car" issues. My wife doesn't even want to drive the car anymore, and I don't blame her. This 'piece' is 2 dealer visits away from becoming a lemon.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? No

Review Date: 4th July, 2007

6th Jul 2007, 01:56

You can't beat that Crown Victoria/Grand Marquis!

6th Jul 2007, 06:52

You didn't notice some of this stuff on the test drive? You can get a after market spoiler. We did it way back in '97.

6th Jul 2007, 14:50

I'm the original poster. The car we test drove was not the one we bought because they didn't have the color we were looking for. The test car was Beige colored, and the one we wanted was Charcoal colored. I performed a typical customer road test with the car, and it didn't have any issues whatsoever, so naturally I assumed my car would be on par.

The car we wanted was 150 miles away, so between there and here, it could have been dogged on the way to the dealership. No real way of knowing. All I know is the car has issues, only about 2 weeks into ownership. The dealer called today, and "can't duplicate the problem", which was expected. It wouldn't have been such a big deal had I not put $3k down on the car.

Thankfully, the person that sold me the car is making every effort to fix the problem, and is definitely abiding by the whole "bumper to bumper; roof to road" warranty. The only real aggravation lately is having to hear my wife complain everyday about how much she hates her new car.

Maybe I can lemon-law her too.

2007 Toyota Camry LE 2.4 from North America

Summary:

Excellent

Faults:

Nothing.

General Comments:

2007 Camry LE 4cyl, Base package.

Before deciding on this car, my short list of cars included the Honda Accord, Nissan Altima and Buick Allure (LaCrosse). Road noise was one of the top concerns I had for my next car, so that quickly eliminated the Honda (besides, the Honda was $4,000 more). The Altima was eliminated due to their new model having a new type of transmission, although the test drive was amazing, I’ll never buy an experimental model. I test drove the Buick Allure and Toyota Camry each two times. The Buick had a slightly more comfortable and quieter ride, but it was eliminated because I didn’t like the position of all the driving controls and I didn’t like the cluttered V6 engine compartment. If you do want a Buick, I strongly suggest you find one 2nd hand with 20,000km and save yourself about $10,000. It was the same price as the Camry, but its resale value was another reason to eliminate it.

Now, about the Camry:

4cyl, 2.4L 16 Valve, VVT-I, Overhead cam

-timing chain instead of a belt that will cost you big bucks to change at 100kkm

-enough hp to move the car safely into traffic and pass the slow pokes

-not a racing engine that will jerk the car like a rollercoaster

-I’m against street racing, so a 4cyl will do fine thank you

-fuel economy! Think green!

-hood opens with gas pistons! Big bonus here, no prop rod to mess around with.

-fluid levels are easily viewed through visible windows or translucent plastic bottles

-large air filter lets engine breath easy, saves gas!

-electronic reminder to change oil! Brilliant!

-VVT Variable Valve Timing, I would have preferred a simple engine, but this system has been in use for many years without failures, I’ll take what I get here.

-engine has lots of room to work on. I intend to drive this car to the ground, so someday in the years ahead the engine will need some kind of work. Being my own mechanic, I do appreciate being able to replace worn pieces without having to pull out the whole motor! All the common parts are visible and easily accessible. I’ll even bet that some repairs could be made road side!

Transmission:

5 speed automatic, I would have been happy with a 4 speed, simpler is always better!

It’s like having 5 shaving blades, when 2 or 3 work just as good and is cheaper (more reliable in this case). I base reliability upon the simplicity of the transmission.

I have not had any problems that others have reported and I can’t believe that Toyota wouldn’t repair such problems if it was true. If it was really true, then you would see a lot of people selling their Toyota’s. I don’t see that many Toyota’s offered for resale by private owners, that tells me they are pretty happy with their cars!

Body design:

This is purely subjective. It’s like believing red cars go faster. This is a personal decision and I won’t waste your time talking about contour lines or colour.

Wheels:

Comes with excellent Michelin tires and a full size spare so you can take road trips with confidence. I did not like the alloy rims so I chose the basic steel rims, I will upgrade with rims of my choice later. The rims I choose will probably be less expensive than Toyotas too. Sorry Toyota, your accessories are over priced for my wallet.

Interior:

Very quiet, extremely nice to roll up windows and

Cloth seats have always felt more comfortable, I would only ever consider leather if they were heated. The seat comfort is amazing, I suffer from lower back pain and I was able to drive for 9 hours straight and actually feel rested when I got there. The power seats looked nice, but I went for the cheaper manual seats and found they work well enough for my discerning needs. CD with MP3 support and AUX jack for my own MP3 player is perfect, I just wish I could have upgraded to 6 CD and Blue Tooth. Controls around the driver’s steering wheel makes driving safer and looks better. Gives more room on dashboard for instrumentation, duct work and stereo. Makes driving safer by not having to stray your hand very far to control accessories on the car. Dual trip meters, great for gauging two things at the same time. Lot’s of compartments for stashing things away plus a huge glove box (in case you have big hands). Seriously, it helps to have places to store things in your car, I wish they had even more spots.

Saftey:

Lots of Air Bags… let’s hope I never find out how well they work!

Things I don’t like:

-Car comes with fixed packages, so you can’t pick and choose the exact options you prefer. Eg. I desperately wanted Blue Tooth, but couldn’t have it unless I got the XLE which does NOT come with the 4cyl or 60/40 folding rear seats that I wanted more.

-Wish it had Dual Air control as an option, but it’s only available only on the XLE.

-I would have liked to have power seats, but they only come with the alloy rims which I don’t like.

-Missing some options that should be included in the base package, like low wheel pressure indicator, low oil level indicator, low coolant indicator, low brake fluid level indicator, low transmission fluid indicator

-A few other options would have been nice to get, but they were over priced and too expensive compared to 3rd party accessories I can buy. Eg. GPS, Compass, reading lights in back seat, parking sensors, garage door opener, floor mats.

-Owners manual, written by a 1st year English student. One manual covers all models and does not clearly convey which features are optional. Further, in one section they recommend to disconnect the battery for a test and in another section they warn against disconnecting the battery for other reasons (perhaps something needs to be reset?). I’ve heard about cars that won’t restart without entering a code after disconnecting the battery.

-Rust protection, car is not given extra rust protection, I guess they want the car to not last forever! Toyota advises against using Krown Rust Proofing and offered a questionable electronic rust control system instead. We’ll see how well it works this winter.

Things that I wish it had:

-Built in electric cooler!

-USB port for connection to a lap top or jump drive to upload/download data

-A reverse trip meter to count down mileage to your destination

-fuel consumption meter (saw it on a Crown Victoria, very nice!)

-heated cloth seats

-a special container for trash

-auto windows to open all windows (include this option on remote)

-auto windows to close if rain detected (while parked)

Conclusion:

Despite all the little things it doesn’t have, for the price it’s a very well built car well worth the money!

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 21st June, 2007

21st Jun 2007, 10:01

Although you admit that you feel confident in the car, it seems that you had some pretty high expectations in terms of features for a car in this price range. I would suggest buying a pre-owned XLE Camry, Avalon, or even a Lexus next time if you want that much stuff. Some of the things you mentioned do not come into play until at least $10k more is spent.