28th Nov 2017, 16:54
Why is this so difficult? The Camry engine has less HP than the Olds, but the Camry also weighs less, so its lower weight may compensate for less HP.
Although the Olds, with its greater cubic inch engine, would have significantly more torque than the smaller engine Camry. "No replacement for displacement"
29th Nov 2017, 01:21
They run race car Camrys on tracks at NASCAR. Seems like that would be the perfect car for you. Big engine combined with a Camry skinned body. Save your Hurst Olds for the Pace Car just before the 500 mile race.
3rd May 2018, 16:09
1970 442 W30 had a 0-60 time of 5.7 seconds.
2015 Camry V6 had a 0-60 time of 6.1 seconds.
The Olds is faster, but burns 2-3 times the fuel, is nowhere near as comfortable and has next to none of the creature comforts of the Camry.
3rd May 2018, 18:38
And the Camry doesn't come close as far as being fun to drive, beautiful styling, thumbs up and comments, appreciating value, nice V8 exhaust note, smooth ride, and I would even say reliability compared to an iconic Oldsmobile muscle car.
3rd May 2018, 18:50
Wow, interesting comparison. This well documented if proven Olds engine option can currently fetch 80 grand plus in nice condition. I disagree on the ride as this was a luxury mid size. As far as gas mileage, who on earth cares? If you want to look at an investment that increased 20 times since purchased new, that may offset your concern. Time will tell if the Camry will. My 77 Celica GT easily doubled in value from when I bought it new.
Last, it’s great doing car shows with this 70. I had a 68, it was a nice car. Add the 1970 and 442 with W-30; it will be like having an investment to sell when you retire. Not all older cars appreciate, but this is truly an exception. It’s got everything going for it if restored properly.
4th May 2018, 02:31
1970 442 W30; A piece of Detroit ground breaking automotive history built by one of GM's most innovative divisions.
2015 Camry v6; a boring everyday plastic appliance that looks like every other generic 4 door sedan on the road today.
4th May 2018, 17:37
Sell the late model Camry, you take the depreciation right as soon as you leave the lot.
Another comparison on how great the 4-4-2 is worth having is as follows: Buy new in 70 and sell the 4-4-2 in nice condition with the rare W-30 and take the pure profit and have 3 free new Camry vehicles with the gain. Free. A prime example of a great investment muscle car. Buy the right 2 door classic and do very well. I don’t know who brought up this extreme comparison, but it’s not going to make you rich buying this import. It is a car to drive around in for the moment. Wear it out, buy another. And a nice documented 1970 car from the collector car auctions is only heading upward. Drive, enjoy and take the gain.
5th May 2018, 12:03
A phrase heard back then on the 1970 Olds 4-4-2 W-30 see idling at a traffic light was “If you see red you're dead”. Refers to the trademark Olds distinctive W-30 only option red inner fender wells. Also only 96 Convertibles were made that year. Many more as coupes. You absolutely picked the ultimate collectible Oldsmobile. Well into a 6 figure car today as a convertible. Which would I prefer? Camry or one of these? Take your best guess.
5th May 2018, 12:22
Sure. If you bought the Olds brand new in 1970, never drove it AT ALL and kept it in climate controlled storage for 40+ years, you might be able to sell it for that.
But who wants to do that? Cars are meant to be driven, not just gaped at in car shows. If I had to drive cross country, the Camry would be the obvious choice. The Olds might get more attention at gas station stops (which would be much more frequent than with the Camry) but, so what?