28th Mar 2007, 09:05
05:35, Did you miss the part where I said I have NO drive to work, because I live and work in the same place? You can't use less gas than me driving to work, because I don't use ANY.
28th Mar 2007, 09:07
Hate to break it to you, but that is what sells cars in the mass market and always has been. 400,000 people a year disagree with you when it comes to Toyota, and almost a similar number does so when it comes to Honda.
It's the same with houses, clothes, and virtually any other consumer product you can think of. Americans do NOT like risk and always want to feel they've made the right choice by buying safe.
28th Mar 2007, 09:14
This whole theory of yours is ridiculous. Do you understand what 60% of the market means? That means that, while you may drive 1 mile to work, the MAJORITY of people do not.
And you have to prove your emissions theory. SUVs pollute four times as much as a regular car (and MORE than that with ULEV cars such as the Accord and Prius) so therefore the car would have to run FOUR times more to surpass the emissions.
28th Mar 2007, 09:17
Yeah because the Ford Fusion and Pontiac G6 offer soul. NOT! What a bunch of crap! The Accord that is five years old has more power and is not an appliance.
28th Mar 2007, 10:08
There is a consensus in the automotive press that the latest GM offerings are increasing quality... it takes a couple of years for perceptions to change in the marketplace... watch GM rebound in the latter part of this decade to its former glory while hapless Toyota owners rush to form a "recall of the month club". Perhaps Toyota should stick with a level of technology it understands and follow the lead of Honda and make lawn mowers...
28th Mar 2007, 11:55
11:10...I laughed out of my chair. I have a new 2007 Silverado SS and a new Trailblazer SS each touching 400 hp. Actually the Trailblazer is at 430 hp light mods. Not enough performance?...you must be kidding. I think you need to drive a Z06 Corvette as soon as possible if you prefer a sports car. The warranty is 100,000 miles/mechanical as well. I was totally bored with the Tundra... the new Toyota sports car replacing the Supra may be worth a look if you want a Toyota that has performance.
28th Mar 2007, 16:20
23.44 What's wrong with Chrysler becoming a Canadian Company. Last time I looked there seemed to be a lot of Toyotas, Hondas, Nissans, Hyundais, Kias and the like being sold in the U.S. Maybe it's time for a Canadian Chrysler.
We can come out with new models named after our great cities and provinces. How about the "Saskatoon" or "Yukon" oops sorry, GM already uses that one. I think my favourite would be the "Quebec" a car that always wants to separate.
I know what we can do, we can merge Chrysler with Bombardier then we can put a Hemi in a Ski Doo. Just think about it eh! Blasting over the Tundra (not a Toyota) on your Hemi Ski Doo with a beer in one hand and your wife in the other. It couldn't get any better than that now could it eh!
28th Mar 2007, 16:36
Given GM's goal is to outsource virtually all of its cars it will be very interesting to see the domestic crowd defend cars that aren't even American, yet virtually every Toyota and Honda sold here will be.
Or, to put it another way, how many Americans are kept out of work every time someone feels "patriotic" by buying a Mexican-made Ford Fusion or Canadian-made Buick LaCrosse?
28th Mar 2007, 17:39
Actually I looked at the recall stuff and it said that 4400 Camrys were recalled. Some nut ball on here said that all 2 million Camrys were affected. I don't even drive a Camry or like Toyota, but I think that is sick to be making up recalls that do not exist!
28th Mar 2007, 17:53
So if a 2008 domestic car can catch up to the quality of a 2003 Honda Accord, it must have great quality. I have been seeing this for years. 1997 Malibu was raved as being awesome and Chevrolet even had people saying in ads that it was better than their Accord or Camry... kind of like what Ford is doing with the Fusion. They won't disclose which Accord they tested, and now I am beginning to think it was probably a 1997 Accord DX w/out A/C... seems just like one of those models that maybe a fully loaded SEL Fusion could muster around. Surely the Duratec engine is faster than a 135 HP non-vtech 97 Accord coupled to a 4 speed.
I would have thought the Fusion was a good car, but now that they are saying it is better than an Accord has made me lose all trust in Ford. If you actually drive a fully loaded Accord, how could some car that is proven to be slower and less fun to drive beat it? Fun to drive and performance??? If you know anything about cars, you know something is fishy.
28th Mar 2007, 17:57
10:08 is a good representative for most GM owners, telling everybody, "wait, you'll see how good GM will be in the future" GM's GLORY! That's hilarious. The hope of every GM owner: hoping that someday, they won't suck so bad! I'm sure my couple of friends that work at the Lordstown plant, and have been asked to voluntarily quit their jobs and lose their health insurance, are going to give a crap about GM quality in the future. They still work there, by the way, hating every minute of it, and filing union grievences every other day. I guess that's the kind of management that will put GM right back on top! You couldn't PAY me to drive one of their pieces of garbage. GM owners, you better praise that 100,000 mile warranty, you'll for damn sure need it.
29th Mar 2007, 08:35
You said it yourself, so why can't you understand it? Driving 20 miles per day in an SUV produces less emissions than driving your fuel efficient car 120 miles per day (60 mile one-way commute). 4 x 20 = 80. 80 < 120.
29th Mar 2007, 08:38
Then you have no business to even own a car. You don't need one, so every time you start it up, it's a joy-ride and you are polluting un-necessarily. You are more guilty than someone who has to drive to work because you have a choice.
29th Mar 2007, 12:02
I guess I should sell my new Silverado SS and Trailblazer SS for a Tundra... I don't drive vehicles based on unions, global warming etc just the one that stirs the most joy of driving and vehicle ownership.
30th Mar 2007, 11:04
I can live with 800,000 lemmings disagreeing with me (make it 20 million if you like), because I drive what I like and think for myself. It seems that following the masses is more important to you, since apparently you need reassurance that you made the popular, if not necessarily best decision. I suppose you feverishly pore over Consumer Reports, J.D. Power, and other useless ratings in an attempt to remain safely in the pack where no individual stands out. Sorry, not for me.