30th Mar 2007, 12:50
8:38 How is it that because I don't drive to work, that I shouldn't own a car? Groceries and such things don't magically appear in my refrigerator, as well as all of the other errands I have to run. Why don't you ride a bus to work?
30th Mar 2007, 14:26
How can you complain about GM laying off people and having to close plants when you are part of the problem by buying an import? This massive brainwash that cars are automatically better because they're a Toyota is ridiculous, that's why the American automakers are having problems. And once Toyota has a monopoly in this country and is charging 30000 for a Corolla, you'll see what I mean. Having owned unreliable Japanese cars, I fail to see how they are at all better than my Chevy.
30th Mar 2007, 22:19
To comment 09:24: I'm not all that concerned about gas mileage either, but our family's GM vehicles are not only fast, comfortable and reliable, but we get better gas mileage than comparable Toyotas.
My brother's smooth, powerful Impala gets 33mpg on the highway, my Pontiac gets 27 in the city (which is 90% of my driving) and our GMC Envoy with the awesomely powerful inline 6 (275HP) not only performs like a sports car, but got 24.2mpg on the highway on our last vacation. The HYBRID Toyota Highlander only gets 17mpg highway!!
We've owned imports and we spent more on repairs on ONE import than we have on all our GM vehicles COMBINED. We've owned cars and trucks from all 3 U.S. car makers and none has come close to the poor reliability of our Japanese imports. We can no longer AFFORD to consider a Japanese car!!
31st Mar 2007, 04:14
8:38 doesn't drive to work. So do you drive on weekends to see all your family or friends? Do you buy/ transport food, clothing, ever do errands? I burn more gas on weekends for this very reason. I think it would be more practical to have my family of 5 in my household to each drive separate economy cars instead of in our SUV. I think it will be more practical to take multiple trips to the grocery store to fit everything in a small import as well. Somehow I do not find the idea practical as well as isolating us all from one another.
31st Mar 2007, 07:09
22:19 Your gas mileage numbers aren't even close to accurate. You're about 10 or 15 mpg over the actual numbers for your Chevy's and about 20 mpg under actual numbers for the Toyota. Completely inaccurate.
31st Mar 2007, 08:00
Isn't it amazing how these people who would ONLY drive domestic cars somehow ALWAYS seem to own an import that ALWAYS seems to break down, while their domestic vehicles run like clockwork?
On top of that, this poster adds ridiculous mileage claims.
31st Mar 2007, 08:57
Running errands and getting groceries is why you should be riding the bus. Errands are frivolous, while getting to work is a necessity. You live in a city where PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION is easily available. You have NO reason for owning a car, as you so convincingly argued that you don't have to drive to work. YOU ARE GUILTY! Point the finger at yourself.
Why don't I ride the bus? Let's see, because there is no bus that runs from my house 10 miles into the country outside city limits where I work. You have a choice, and choose to pollute needlessly. How does it feel to squander natural resources when you don't have to?
31st Mar 2007, 17:49
Comment 03:47 makes a LOT of sense. My wife and I always spend several days test driving 8 to 10 vehicles in the category we are looking for before we buy. Our decisions are based on driving impression, build quality, dealership reputation and cost. We ALWAYS end up with a GM vehicle.
31st Mar 2007, 21:18
I was a GM and Ford guy... I even have family working in high places at GM.
We watched as the quality of the American vehicles slipped. So we bought Hondas.
We have never had any problems with our Honda's that were not maintenance. My other siblings own Toyota's and they seem to be almost perfect... never a problem. Even our 2003-2006 cars, which everyone on here say are so unreliable.
Our Japanese cars range in miles from 25k-275,000 miles. Just last week my sister was having problems with her valve cover leaking on her 1996 Accord LX with 140,000 miles. Guess what? A friend of hers was having the same problem like it with his 02 or 03 Trailblazer. When I heard this I laughed at all the guys on here who bought a Trailblazer because their Tercel needed an oil change.
Ladies and Gents, I have seen Toyota and Honda reliability and quality and I can say that GM and Ford have a long way to go.
1st Apr 2007, 06:33
8:57 I set the trap, and you fell right in. I just got you to admit how far of a drive you have, and we already know that you choose to drive an inefficient vehicle! Three strikes and you're out. Buy something that uses less gas.
1st Apr 2007, 10:20
"On top of that, this poster adds ridiculous mileage claims."
Not if he's from Canada, and quoting Imperial gallons per mile. An Imperial gallon is slightly larger than a US gallon, hence it would appear that you're getting several more miles per gallon than expected.
1st Apr 2007, 17:11
Thank God for GM, Ford and Chrysler. Solid reliable products, integrity and real value. Why buy anything else!
1st Apr 2007, 17:52
Yeah right! I bet you bought the GM car because it came with bags of money in the truck and season tickets to see the Yankees.
What quality is everyone finding in these cars? I have owned some American in the past -- driven some new ones on test tracks -- but for the life of me cannot figure out why the "domestics" drive so much better or have better quality. The panel gaps are gigantic and quality of the materials is below that of Honda or Toyota. The engines do not feel as refined as that of Honda or Toyota.
This is not to say that you could not get a Dodge Omni to 800,000 miles or a Chevrolet X car to a million miles, but you can hear the difference clearly when driving. Just climb back into your better quality American car and put it into gear... notice that screw driver on metal feel when you are shifting the auto trans into gear? Well the Honda just glides happily in gear without any screwdrivers.
I own a few Honda's and have never had any major problems... the only one that had minor problems was our 1994 Accord with 255,000 miles that needed to have the hydraulic clutch pumps replaced and a timing belt... but that was maintenance.
1st Apr 2007, 18:04
Why stay in the 90's even 2002 is old in my opinion... I liked 90 Hondas not after 2000 though.
1st Apr 2007, 21:58
People's experience with cars varies. Our family has NEVER had an import (including Honda and Toyota) that made it to 100,000 miles without MAJOR mechanical problems. On the other hand, NONE of our domestics has ever had ANY problems before 100,000 miles. We don't buy Japanese vehicles any more. We got tired of expensive repairs. The Honda cost more in repairs in 5 years than 10 of our domestics combined.