5th Apr 2007, 09:09
Thank you all for proving that American car manufacturers put profits before people and could care less about innovation.
Funny that all these innovations were not Japanese, yet they somehow are found in Japanese cars and not the domestics.
Safety items are even a bigger joke with American cars. In 1993 GM ran a huge campaign saying how great ABS was and how it was standard on EVERY GM car.
Well, fast forward 14 years and today not every GM car has ABS standard. So funny this vital safety feature is simply tooooo expensive to put in.
But keep on posting all the American innovations made popular by other nonAmerican companies. It's really funny!
5th Apr 2007, 11:15
I maintain that drive them all when you shop for a new car or truck, A very serious test drive. Look at power/performance, room, true cost to own, warranty, pricing. But make your final decision on the test drive. I switched from high end imports to high end domestics. And yes they have ABS, Onstar, etc etc etc. No more puny 36,000 base warranties. Not enough confidence instilled for me to continue to buy expensive new vehicles.
5th Apr 2007, 11:21
Since not every Toy comes with ABS standard either.
So what's your point?
You Japanese lovers are getting owned left and right with facts.
Your myths aren't holding up much longer and you should start realizing that YOU are a part of the reason the American Auto Industry & Economy is going south. You are the same people that shop at WalMart to get the cheapest stuff from China then wonder why nothing seems to be made in the U.S.A anymore.
6th Apr 2007, 06:53
I have had Toyotas, Hondas and Mercedes up til 2004. I now drive GM and love them. My next new vehicle is going to be a loaded Suburban with Onstar... the extra gas is still a lot cheaper than low mileage import repairs in my situation.
6th Apr 2007, 09:49
Wait, remind me again when Toyota ran an ad stating that ABS was standard on all its cars in 1993? Oh, that's right, they didn't.
And your WalMart argument is really funny. WalMart succeeds because it sells to MIDDLE America, the people who buy American cars. Just wander into any WalMart parking lot and look at all the American vehicles.
Americans do NOT care where their products are made as long as they are CHEAP.
6th Apr 2007, 10:30
Oh, so the domestic car owners never shop at wal-mart and they just go to ma and pa stores that build TV's in America and clothing made from American textile industries. YEAH RIGHT! I checked out Honda's website and all of their cars have side airbags and curtain bags -- plus ABS on all models. Yeah the S-2000 is not included since it is a specialty vehicle, so it has no curtain bags.
6th Apr 2007, 14:11
No, the American auto industry is the reason that the American auto industry is going south. American citizens bought their junk for years, and are tired of getting burned on low quality junk, and having their wallets emptied.
We all made the Big 3 big, and in return, instead of investing some of that money into making good cars and trucks, they kept the money, and cut even MORE corners, selling people garbage through the 80's and 90's, and people have finally had enough.
Toyota, Honda, and the like took the actions they knew would put them on their way to the top. They built quality cars, earned a reputation of reliability with little or no repairs, and gained the trust of smart consumers.
Their success, and the downfall of the big 3 were only a matter of time. If you want to see why the economy is not good, look to our government, the war (or whatever you call it) in Iraq, and the way our government is running this country. And people buying from Walmart is a separate issue altogether. Has nothing to do with auto manufacturers.
7th Apr 2007, 03:44
I think people will wise up after living with the newer imports like I have. Mechanical breakdowns are expensive. I would rather pay a bit more for gas, have more features and a better warranty with higher end domestics. I do not understand all the Walmart comments. I've read it all on here and fail to comprehend what point it has. I go out now test drive everything not just blindly herd into the same manufacturer. There's a lot of great fun cars to drive out there that I didn't realize that have better power, handling, room, features. I have yet to see the repair concerns or lack of quality with the domestics that are mentioned. My experience is only within the past 3 years, but so far no mechanical issues just basic oil changes, brakes and tires. I do not buy low end or base models and I had 30 years of new import ownership experience prior and saw quality diminish to the point that I switched. That's a pretty extensive history that I feel has merit.......why the switch if there wasn't continued mechanical issues? Again fuel efficient vehicles are not saving you when you are paying for expensive components not under warranty anymore. 36,000 miles comes quickly..........I do not like aftermarket extended warranties with big deductibles as well.
7th Apr 2007, 08:32
You must be really proud increasing our dependence on foreign oil and destroying the environment every time you start up.
7th Apr 2007, 08:51
What is not to understand? Wal-Mart points out the hypocrisy of these domestic car owners. They will defend to the death how patriotic they are by buying an American car, yet EVERYTHING else they buy is NOT made here.
What's even more ironic is that they claim they are putting American workers to work by buying American, yet in the same breath they state that the unions (the WORKERS they are allegedly saving) are the reason American car companies have failed.
Their arguments fail on every count, and are proven wrong every time I drive by a Wal-Mart parking lot and see all these "loyal" Americans loading up their Chevy Tahoes with communist-made goods.
7th Apr 2007, 12:43
Warranties have never been an issue with us. We have never had a breakdown with any of our domestics in 100,000 miles anyway, so unless they come out with a 300,000 mile warranty, it won't really matter to us.
7th Apr 2007, 12:54
Comment 11:04 could not be more wrong. While working for Ford my personal cars were a Chevy and a Dodge.
I know DOZENS of employees of Japanese car companies who FLATLY REFUSE to drive one of these unreliable death traps.
The funniest incident I recall along this line occurred several years ago when I was looking for a good used economy car as a third car. I was at a Toyota dealership, and after failing to find a good domestic (I REFUSE to buy imports) on the used car lot, the salesman said "Wait just a minute" and went to talk to his sales manager, who came back in to the office and told me that he had a Chevy Cavalier that was his PERSONAL CAR that he'd sell me if I was interested!! I passed on it because it had 225,000 miles on it!!