Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Anyone can add to it. That's common knowledge, so it would seem.
Also, a BMW has absolutely NOTHING in common with a Chevrolet Aveo, or Hyundai Accent, or any economy car for that matter. I don't know why you keep mentioning it.
Finally, I've had excellent luck with my Toyota! It's been flawlessly reliable, and fuel efficient. No matter what I may or may not aspire to own in the future, discussion about BMW's belong elsewhere on this site.
This is the last post from the wrongly labelled Hyundai/Kia enthusiast person to the BMW/Chevrolet lover. GM went bankrupt. Daewoo went bankrupt, and no BMWs can change that. Wikipedia isn't a particularly reliable source, but since you used it to claim Kia went bankrupt, I found info. of my own. They clearly state that Daewoo went bankrupt to the tune of 80 billion dollars long before Chevy had anything to do with them.
Sorry, but all the BMW drivers in the world can't change history. Now I'm off to drive my little Toyota, because unlike most BMWs, it's not in the shop! Good luck with your Hedgehog aspirations! I'm done commenting on this area.
"What on Earth does this have to do with a North American review of an Aveo?"
If you are able to observe the comment above it, you would see there was criticism of BMW; if you were to note the UK's national experience of BMW in the link, you would find it does not align with the "statement" above.
I believe the above comment was a criticism phrased as a question. This is after all a review about the North American Chevy Aveo. BMW got dragged into it because someone repeatedly claimed he a was a BMW driver, and knew all Chevrolets were superior to all Hyundais.
He claimed no one with common sense would choose any Hyundai over a Chevrolet, and that the notion of Hyundai making anything good was laughable. Then he said all the BMW drivers would agree to this. I agree that BMW claims, especially from Australia, do not belong here. BMW is so irrelevant to this discussion. We should go back to talking about the Aveo and true competitors in its class like the 'laughable' Hyundai Accent, or Ford Fiesta.
Again, what on Earth does this have to do with a North American review of an Aveo? Leave BMW posts on BMW threads. The two cars are as different as night and day. I don't care about the above post!
"He claimed no one with common sense would choose any Chevrolet over a Hyundai"
Actually, I said most BMW drivers would probably rather drive a Chevrolet than Hyundai. Let's face it, a Hyundai is a slightly embarrassing car to drive..
"Let's face it, a Hyundai is a slightly embarrassing car to drive."
I don't think a person should be embarrassed to drive any car brand. Drive what you can afford and what fits you. NOBODY should feel embarrassed driving a reliable, and affordable car brand like Hyundai is in North America. I don't think it's right to tell someone they must be embarrassed for the car they drive.
"Let's face it, a Hyundai is a slightly embarrassing car to drive.."
Maybe 10 years ago this was truth, but these days Hyundai ranks up with the better brands. They look as good or better than most of the competition, and get really good mileage overall as well. I wouldn't be at all embarrassed to drive a Hyundai around.
Hear, hear! People should like what they drive.
And, I wouldn't be so eager to bash Hyundai (or Kia) nowadays. Their products are world class and ones that any manufacturer would be proud to have in their line up.
It's a mystery to me as to why Americans and Canadians seem to find Hyundai "a world class car". I can only imagine it is due to their difficult economic conditions.
However it is true that people should feel comfortable about whatever car they drive, even if it is a Hyundai or Kia.
Here in the United Kingdom Hyundai/Kia is still seen as a budget manufacturer... don't believe me? Just check Top Gear car programs and Auto Express Car reviews.
Last time I checked, times were tough everywhere, including the UK. Maybe you're lucky, and extremely wealthy. I don't know. I'm unsure what everyone's definition of world class is, but Hyundai can compete with GM, Chrysler, who failed in Europe, Ford, Toyota, and many more as a successful global carmaker. Also, here in North America, you don't have to be on poverty row just because you choose a Hyundai.
You paid $17,785 AFTER incentives? You got ripped off badly!
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