9th Feb 2007, 09:46
I see, so people should rush out an buy a MEXICAN MADE Ford Fusion instead of an AMERICAN MADE Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Hyundai Sonata.
And please enlighten us as to which American made computer you are accessing this site on.
9th Feb 2007, 14:28
Well, you're right about the automatic part given all but one of them was a manual - funny you didn't know that given you are outlining how I allegedly took care of my cars. Oh, that's right, you know NOTHING about how I did. I followed the recommended maintenance procedure for every car, including having the air in the tires checked every week or so.
Your assumptions apply to the typical American car buyer who thinks his/her car is a living room on wheels.
But, using your logic, history would then dictate that import owners take care of their cars while domestic owners do not, since imports have traditionally been much more reliable.
9th Feb 2007, 14:56
Somehow you managed to miss the point. I clearly stated that proper maintenance increases the life of any car, domestic or import, quality or junk. It appears that you would try to argue with a stop sign.
9th Feb 2007, 15:53
No, you did. The topic WAS that regular maintenance guarantees reliability of a car. Try to stick to the topic at hand because that is what I did.
Regular maintenance is necessary for any car regardless of what the domestic posters say.
9th Feb 2007, 15:59
I'd suggest you read the reviews for the Ford Windstar. That vehicle is junk, and some of those posts prove that no matter how well you take care of it, it will still fail on you.
9th Feb 2007, 18:26
I have read several recent articles about the "master plan" that Toyota is using to try and destroy the American auto industry. It involves incredibly manipulative and deceptive practices, media manipulation and infiltration of organizations such as NASCAR in order to try and convince Americans that it is an "American" company (DEFINITELY NOT TRUE). It wants to attempt to lead people to believe that foreign owned companies benefit Americans just as much as domestic companies (again, DEFINITELY NOT TRUE). With an abundance of profits from the mind-controlled robots who line up to fork over FULL LIST for vehicles that cut costs at every structural member, Toyota is putting $200,000,000 into its NASCAR effort to further try and manipulate public opinion. Now, one can only wonder where all this is leading. Smart people (i.e. DOMESTIC car owners) already KNOW. Once competition is eliminated, the cost of a Camry will rise by no LESS than $10,000 to $15,000 per car. If the import fans want to drive around in $40,000 Corollas, they deserve it. I'll buy a good used domestic.
10th Feb 2007, 12:58
Oh, I finally understand why we should buy domestic vehicles.
According to WXYZ-TV Detroit, Mark Fields, the president of Ford Americas, likes to live in Florida instead of Detroit.
So FORD pays for him to fly EVERY weekend from Detroit to Florida in the corporate jet, and that costs Ford, which lost $12.7 billion last year, $900K - $2 million depending on the source you're talking to.
So please keep buying domestic vehicles. I'm sure there are lots of American executives who want to live in California, Bahamas, Europe, or Japan and need to commute from Detroit.
This is the quality leadership that makes Ford and the other domestics the great car makers they are today.
11th Feb 2007, 06:15
"No one pays 50K for a Camry and no one will."
You're right, I wouldn't pay 50k for a Camry. I wouldn't pay 5k for a Camry. If the day comes when Toyota really does drive Ford, GM, and Daimler-Chrysler out of North America, I'll be pulling old domestics out of the weeds to drive before I permit some Toyota to sit in my garage.
11th Feb 2007, 12:52
So you wouldn't pay 5K for an American Made camry, but you would pay 25K for a Mexico built Fusion???
11th Feb 2007, 18:10
So, Toyota is now an American car company? The Wall Street Journal must have missed the big scoop. But since you ask, no, I would not enrich the coffers of Toyota (a Japanese company, in case you didn't realize that) by even $5,000 whether their auto is assembled in the US or not. Not just because it's Japanese, but because the Camry is just so boring!
12th Feb 2007, 07:28
The Fusion is still a joke car until it proves its reliable. just because the car is good for one year does not mean it is a quality car. give it a good 5 years at least before you say it's a better car (which it aint).
14th Feb 2007, 13:04
At least the Fusion has not suffered from defective air bags, faulty steering, sticking accelerators, front suspension failures, bad brakes, peeling paint, oil leaks, and coolant leaks as recent Toyotas have. I have not seen a single reason to assume that the Fusion is not WAY BETTER than the Camry. No one has offered any evidence to that effect, only unfounded and untrue statements that "Toyotas are better" with nothing to support those claims.
14th Feb 2007, 14:04
"At least the Fusion has not suffered from defective air bags, faulty steering, sticking accelerators, front suspension failures, bad brakes, peeling paint, oil leaks, and coolant leaks as recent Toyotas have."
No, that's the Focus and Taurus.
14th Feb 2007, 16:39
Oh yeah, that was real factual now wasnt it. you just totally proved how unreliable the fusion is...
14th Feb 2007, 17:28
I cannot wait til the new Taurus reintroduction arrives. I had great luck with my new ones and would order a couple again.
26th Feb 2007, 18:59
The Fusion is not a good car. The Fusion is not a mediocre car. The Fusion is a crappy car.
How do I know this? Because the Fusion is made by Ford, and Ford only makes crappy cars. Ford hopes that this car will attract people who would normally buy an Accord or Camry. Anyone who thinks that the Fusion is a better car than one of these two should go ahead and buy the Fusion, because they do not deserve to drive an Accord or Camry.
No one cares what magazine says that the Fusion is reliable. How can a new car be called that? The definition of reliable is "something that is trustworthy; can be relied on". You can't know if a car is reliable or not until you drive it long enough to see if it can be relied on to perform in a trustworthy manner.
The Accord and the Camry are reliable, that's why they're the two top selling cars in the United States. The Fusion, like many of Ford's cars in the past, will probably prove itself to be unreliable. It would take ANY new car about a decade or two of near flawless performance to even possibly unseat these Honda and Toyota cars.
Sorry, Ford fans, if you put all your hope into the Fusion, prepare to be disappointed.