6th Aug 2007, 16:00
"Sorry, but economic situations are not going in the favor of the man who loves domestic cars."
Another statement that makes no sense. Is that why Ford just posted a $700 million profit? Sorry to hurt your feelings, but Ford, GM, and Chrysler are going to be around for a long time. Deal with it.
7th Aug 2007, 12:06
There were many Celicas in the 70's I had a new GT. None to be seen anymore. The car was not cheap in its day and I thought they were sharp enough to be desirable and saved. I guess they rusted out. wore out etc. I bought a Cutlass afterwards and still see them everywhere still running and being driven.
7th Aug 2007, 16:45
I see old Celicas that are classic in Minnesota, however I do see Cutlasses too, but to tell you the truth a 96' Cutlass is not too far off from a 1982 Cutlass so do you really know? Also the Cutlass was Oldsmobile's Accord or Camry, and I see hundreds of Accords in a given day or Camrys. I could say that I see a lot of non-japanese cars broken down on the side of the road, and what would that prove to you?
7th Aug 2007, 16:48
HMMM? If I sold off a whole car division I sure as hell would hope I made a profit. That is why Ford made a profit because of the sale of one of its marques. They will still continue to lose more money. It is not because the Fusion all of a sudden took the media by surprise or the Freestyle turns into a time machine. Ford is still what it was in June, May, and April. Sorry to hurt your feelings
7th Aug 2007, 17:33
"Nice cars like Camry, Accord, Civic, and Corolla"... puke, burp, guffaw, and yawn! This reads like a "Who's Who" of boredom.
What does the Corolla and Civic compete with, the Ford Contour, Chevy Cobalt? Okay, granted, I'm not interested in that car class at all, so moot point, take it or leave it.
What does the Accord compete with, maybe the Pontiac Grand Am or Ford Fusion? I would definitely take the Fusion or Pontiac.
What does the Camry compete with, the Ford Taurus or Pontiac Bonneville, maybe the Chrysler 300? The domestics are just so much nicer!
Why condemn yourself to driving some Toyota that has the look and feel of a stripped down sales fleet vehicle? Seriously, even a used domestic vehicle is still so nice, why would anyone pay the big mark-up for the "quality" Toyota badge? Domestics are cheaper, just as reliable, and more comfortable compared to these over-hyped Japanese cars. Break the mold, guys, don't fall for this continued Japanese infallibility myth!
7th Aug 2007, 20:14
16:00 So Ford went from negative 13 billion dollars to plus 700 million? Hmm... I'd have to say that that is called 'fudging the numbers to save your a*s', if you're a higher up at Ford.
Deal with this: Toyota is # ONE in this country as well as the rest of the world. The Corolla is the best selling car ever, the Camry is the best selling car in the United States, and Tundra sales went up 146% while Ford is going to discontinue the Ranger because nobody is buying it.
I don't care how long those three are around, and neither do most new car buyers. They'll still take a permanent backseat to Toyota.
8th Aug 2007, 06:10
"7th Aug 2007, 17:33"
Take in mind this is only your opinion and it is disturbing. I do not think you ever drove a Camry, Altima, Civic, Accord, etc... You compare cars that were complete dive bombs for GM or Ford to fine Japanese cars.
You seem to think that poor quality in a vehicle should be praised, that mediocre handling, engines, and safety should be praised.
8th Aug 2007, 06:54
Ha! Yeah, okay, I'll "deal" with Toyota being "No. 1" by continuing to drive my Ford. According to you, I ought to trade it on a Toyota immediately because it will die any moment.
I'm quite confused by your mystical prognostications, though, because my Ford runs and drives perfectly, as do my other domestics. In fact, the only vehicle my family has that is a non-running piece of junk is, you guessed it!... A Toyota truck with 57,000 miles.
Toyota No. 1??? Not in my experience. Your blather about global sales don't mean anything to me when my domestics run perfectly and a low-mileage Toyota is a piece of junk.
9th Aug 2007, 07:16
"Fine Japanese cars" is a starry-eyed oxymoron. Are you disturbed that someone has resisted being brainwashed into the zombie-like chant of "Toy-o-ta-bet-ter"? Care to comment on Honda Odyssey transmissions, flagging Nissan sales, or sludge-prone Toyota engines? Are these examples of "fine Japanese cars"? The funny part is that you paid much more for them, wanting to believe you were getting quality, and when the truth was revealed, you can't admit that you paid more for less. Sorry.
9th Aug 2007, 17:36
It will be interesting to see how long Toyota will be able to hold it's number one position. My guess is not very long.
29th Oct 2007, 23:36
Having had lots of experience with domestics, and NEVER having an engine or transmission failure in some that went over 300,000 miles, and having had experience with two Japanese imports that totally disintegrated by 100,000 miles, I'm not wasting any more of my time or money on anything that isn't made by the Big Three.
Every reputable source on the planet is rating the Ford Fusion as the most reliable vehicle built today. It's even higher rated than Accord, and light years ahead of the problem-plagued Camry. If the Japanese don't get their reliability up, they will not enjoy good sales, no matter how many billions they pour into ad hype.
30th Oct 2007, 10:41
I almost laughed out loud at work. I find it amazing that anyone given the choice would choose a Pontiac Bonneville over a Camry. Get real! Pontiacs are total pieces of garbage.
30th Oct 2007, 10:57
Once again, for all you "made in U. S of A" people, the Ford Fusion that you all seem to rally for as the all-time import killer; first of all, the Fusion has not been out long enough to accurately swear that it is indeed reliable. In 1998, Consumer reports ranked the VW Jetta favorably. Guess what? Long term, the Jetta had a tendency to blow their infamous zero-centrifugal clutches at 50-60k.
Secondly, and probably more importantly is the fact that the Fusion is built on a stretched Mazda platform, using a Mazda/Ford engineered engine, and uses a crank produced in India. Lastly, the car is manufactured in Mexico. There is NOTHING American about the car other than the marque. If you're trying to make a patriotic argument, then you have no case.
The Camry on the other hand is made in Kentucky with a combination of Domestic and imported parts. So who would you rather cheer for- workers in Kentucky, or workers in Mexico? Take your pick, but don't come on here and claim that the Fusion is an American car, or that just because a magazine gave it good INITIAL quality, that it is automatically better than the Camry.
30th Oct 2007, 14:38
I have never heard of a Fusion (owner) saying it was more reliable than an Accord 4 cylinder. If you want to buy cars from Mexico be my guest. I will stick to the true and tried Accord. I highly doubt you got any domestic car to 300,000 miles. Try 212,000 miles (and it was finished by then)). I had an Accord for 258,000 miles then traded it on a newer Honda. That said it was still good for another 100,000 miles.