5th Oct 2012, 11:57
My 42 year old GM is showroom new. Even have the original T3 headlights in it. Just hoses, belts, tires and fluid changes. And worth 7 times what it cost new, even in this sluggish economy. It dipped a bit in value the past 5 years, but I will take that # vs a low paying bank CD.
7th Oct 2012, 11:05
Just those who can't let go of their anti-import sentiments I suspect. Brace yourself, the "Fusion Guy" hasn't chimed in yet... or has he? ;)
8th Oct 2012, 11:20
Let me clear this up, unless you have me confused with somebody else - I have never said owning a Jeep is "patriotic" subversive" or anything in between.
In fact I think anybody who equates owning any car with "patriotism" or "disloyalty" is really way off base.
8th Oct 2012, 11:20
I saw 2 or 3 GM owners comments, that once owned new Toyotas, but no new Ford Fusion or new Jeep owners comments yet. Where were the comments?
8th Oct 2012, 23:54
My best friend's four year old Corolla is falling apart. He is going tomorrow to pick up his new Chevy Sonic. He did get a good trade in on the Corolla. Chevy gave him $5000. Ford only offered him $4000 for it, which is why he is buying the Sonic.
9th Oct 2012, 16:02
It's just a game where certain commentors are following "the Fusion guy" around this website.
10th Oct 2012, 18:59
A business associate of mine had been driving Toyotas since the 1980's. He recently traded for a new Buick Regal. When I asked him why, he said he spent more time driving a loaner car while his last Camry (a 2007) was in the shop than he drove his own car. Toyota quality definitely went down the tube after 2000 or so.
11th Oct 2012, 12:26
Yes the Regal is a fine choice and a fine automobile. That being said - we ALL get it, you think Toyota builds junk, and hundreds & hundreds of thousands, if not millions, disagree.
I know, I know, this time we are hearing about a business associate, the last time it was a friend, next we will be hearing about the latest recall, which BTW my domestic just had one 2 months ago.
Regardless of what is posted on this site; particularly the hearsay (second party accounts rather than the actual experiences of the owner), which leads me to wonder why your business associate did not post this account instead of you - in any case, regardless of what is posted on this site - we are going to drive whatever we prefer to drive, be it a Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Subaru, Mazda, VW, Honda, and yes even a Toyota if we so choose.
And you know what? There is NOTHING wrong with that!
11th Oct 2012, 17:25
Today Toyota announced the largest recall in their history. That brings the total since 2009 to around 30 million cars. Another good reason to look at Ford, Chevy and Chrysler. Sooner or later Toyota buyers are going to get tired of one recall after another.
12th Oct 2012, 07:45
If you read the comment above yours, you will see that I predicted you would run with the recall.
12th Oct 2012, 10:54
Yup. Somehow we all knew that as soon as the recall for Toyota was announced, we would see these generic comments. Guess what? The Camry is the best-selling car in the US, so if people are "supposedly" going to start looking elsewhere, clearly they haven't, and a single faulty window switch I seriously doubt is going to change that.
Moving on...
12th Oct 2012, 16:08
So having the most recalled vehicles (by a HUGE margin) is not a deterrent to buyers? Why would any truly informed car buyer purchase a car that has had more recalls in three short years than all three of the Big Three have had (combined) in their entire history?
13th Oct 2012, 06:39
Remember the best selling was a year ago. With more and more publicity or disgust, such as our family has had, they will move on. I am not impressed with new Honda's recent major quality drop either. I went to the new auto show in our convention center last weekend. Our 2013 will be a new Ford, not a Toyota. I feel people may even buy the same lemon again thinking the last was a fluke. 2 times convinced us to change. Great quality and service keeps customers. Otherwise why would we change?
13th Oct 2012, 15:42
Why would people continue to buy Toyotas despite their recalls? Because in the end, they still build some of the most reliable products. Try again.
14th Oct 2012, 15:22
I don't find any reliable data indicating Toyota or Honda are any more reliable than Ford or GM. The recent "world's best engine" awards names both Ford and GM engines, but not a single Japanese brand. If they are so much better, why do all the automotive magazines call them "outdated" and "antiquated"?
15th Oct 2012, 12:33
Oh I can: Just look up the most reliable brand for 2012, and lo and behold you get the answer. But either way, somehow this seems to be conveniently left out of these arguments by those who clearly don't want to admit it.
16th Oct 2012, 09:21
I looked it up in my category, and it was the 2013 Corvette at 111k as equipped.
16th Oct 2012, 12:25
Oh - the Corvette comment again. A $111,000 Corvette has NOTHING to do with a 20k econo car. What is the point?
18th Oct 2012, 23:51
I often act as a consultant in helping people find and purchase new cars. Most recently I have advised a Honda CRV owner who bought a Ford Escape (top rated small SUV) and a Toyota owner who bought a Chevy Sonic (ranked second behind the Honda Fit but three grand cheaper). More and more people are finding domestic cars a far better choice.
19th Oct 2012, 12:07
You can rate well in say a sub compact category, and be bottom of the list on another. Instead of saying the word "Toyota", say the model you mean. By the way, anyone see yesterday's reveal on the 2014 Corvette? I use to own new Toyotas at one time, so it's very possible to move up.
20th Oct 2012, 08:25
A self-appointed consultant who drives a Ford Fusion and is waging a war of words against impeccable imports, perhaps?
20th Oct 2012, 10:36
Are we not all consultants, even as laymen? Forewarning others on all specific issues on exact model #s that we have formerly owned. I like some new imports myself like Audi, Infiniti and Porsche AWDs.
20th Oct 2012, 20:28
"Impeccable imports" is an oxymoron unless it refers to German imports. The latest "Best Engine" awards went totally to the U.S. and Germany. Ford won for its awesome new 3-cylinder 1000CC engine and GM won for the 4-cylinder used to give back-up power to the incredible Volt electric. Most of the remaining awards went solely to BMW. Not a single Japanese engine in the entire bunch. There's nothing "impeccable" about dated and boring.
3rd Oct 2012, 17:29
Wow that's odd. I own a 03 Corolla Sport that I bought new. It has 360k miles, and I've never had any of these problems. Maybe it's how they're taken care of. I also have a 98 Camry with 237k miles with no issues.
I don't know why all you people have issues with Toyota. I'm a Chevy guy, but I'd never buy a new one. I like Toyota so much that I just bought a new Corolla. If you treat a car like a truck, of course it's gonna break.