14th Mar 2007, 10:31

The Tundra is okay if all you want to do is haul a few bags of groceries...Chevy, GMC, and Ford all offer real trucks with truck-like capabilities.

A Tonka truck has more capabilities than a Tundra!

14th Mar 2007, 14:29

At least the Tundra will haul the groceries the whole way home without breaking down, which is more than can be said of Chevy or Ford.

14th Mar 2007, 20:51

I get a real kick out of folks who talk about how poorly built domestic trucks are.

This morning I came upon an accident that was tying up traffic. A 2004 Honda Civic had rear-ended a nearly new Chevy Silverado. The Honda was totalled, with the front fenders and hood driven halfway back to the windshield (which was busted). I could not see so much as a tiny amount of deflection to the rear bumper of the Silverado. No dents, no broken tail lights... NOTHING. You would never have known some little tin can just plastered itself all over the back bumper. I've seen Tundras in similar accidents. The bed was buckled and driven halfway to the cab.

As for "real" trucks, there is no question that the silly Ridgeline is NOT a real truck (it's a Pilot SUV with a tiny, inaccessible bed). The Tundra is at least a slightly more functional design, though plagued with too many problems for me to take it seriously in considering a truck.

15th Mar 2007, 09:04

Unless you are driving 400,000 miles to a grocery store, it is very unlikely your Ford or Chevy will break down. That is a ludicrous statement. Domestic trucks have always been more reliable than imports.

15th Mar 2007, 12:45

So whats your alternative to buying a Camry? Pontiac G6? Buick Century? Ford Taurus? My point exactly! You guys have been buying mediocre crap for years and do not want to think about it. No problems here with my Accord or Camry.

15th Mar 2007, 14:34

Comment 21:00 is a work of art. Everything in it is 100% incorrect. Yet another angry, jealous Big 3 fanatic watching their favorite automaker swirl down the toilet. Buy a Toyota next time; see what a good vehicle is like.

15th Mar 2007, 14:39

Guess what, any little car, no matter who makes it, will look like that when it drives under the back end of a full size truck. Could just as easily have been a Chevy car and a Toyota truck. The shame of it is that a good Honda car was smashed up by a piece of crap Silverado.

15th Mar 2007, 15:11

The Honda simply met the fate that all Hondas will meet, crushed like the tin cans they are and thrown away as garbage.

15th Mar 2007, 16:53

That is some imagination you have 14:34, by suggesting that all American cars owners are "jealous" of foreign car (presumably Toyota) owners. That is quite a statement to make, implying that you have figured out the thoughts going through the heads of a majority of the population. Were it possible, it would be amazing. But it is not possible, and you certainly for one do not have me figured out.

I am very happy with my American cars and trucks (both plural), which with one exception, have all been completely trouble free.

Is this something I should be "angry" (as your comment purports) about? I can tell you I am definitely not "jealous" of the thousands of people who are having engine failures and other serious problems with their Toyota's in recent years. Does the Toyota engine sludge problem ring a bell?

15th Mar 2007, 17:00

09:04 The only way a domestic truck is going 400,000 miles would be if a Toyota truck towed it the last 250,000.

By the way, here's a funny story for you: a friend of mine is an off-road driving instructor at a raceway that also offers off road driving. The raceway owns a new Ford Explorer, a Chevy Blazer, and a Jeep Liberty that they use on the off-road courses.

Today, because the student drivers broke ALL THREE of these on the course, my friend had to take them through the course in his own personal vehicle, which is an '02 Toyota Tacoma. This is not the first time he's had to do this, and the 3 domestics are 3 and 4 years newer, and haven't been off road that much yet. The Toyota is the only one that doesn't break! No surprise to anyone who's owned one, though.

The "Exploder" nearly exploded. The student driver pulled off of the course, and jumped out of the truck because he smelled gasoline, and sure enough, my buddy said there was a large puddle of gas in the dirt.

The Blazer lost a universal joint, and every time it goes through the same water hazard that the Tacoma does, the ignition gets wet and the Blazer stalls dead in the water.

So, the Tacoma goes in, gets through the water, AND drags a Blazer on a tow strap behind it.

Somebody broke the Liberty last week apparently, it just decided not to run anymore, so it sits there.

Get the point? The only one that gets through every time, and has never broken down is the import, the Tacoma. Where's the reliability of the domestics? I'll tell you where; in your imagination, and no where else. It doesn't exist. Toyota puts it to shame with REAL performance and reliability.

15th Mar 2007, 19:15

Wow, you import people are sooooo logical. Yes domestic car companies make better trucks that's why they outsell Toyota 8-1. And the fact that you're trying to tell people to be unpatriotic and go buy a car from a Japanese company (I don't care if they're built here, they pay the workers 30% less than the domestic companies and all the profits STILL go back to Japan). That tells me that YOU are the one who is fanatical not the people trying to support their own country.

16th Mar 2007, 04:50

You domestic guys are hanging by a thread; the full size truck sales. Well, Toyota will take that from you before too long. They've been making full size trucks for only like 10 or 12 years, and within the next 5 or 10, they'll control that demographic too, just like they already passed up Dodge, and control the car market over the Big 3. Give it time, you'll lose that one too.

16th Mar 2007, 05:20

14:39...depends on your point of view. I sold a 3 year old piece of crap Honda/Acura for a new 2007 Silverado. I acquired it after test driving a new Tundra.

16th Mar 2007, 09:48

15:11 Yeah, all vehicles end up in the junkyard eventually. Did you have a point, or did you just want to tell everyone something they already know? Even new Honda's will end up there someday, but it'll be many years after all the new Big 3 garbage is already there. However old that Honda was, it was worth more than the rolling trash-heap Silverado that it hit.

16th Mar 2007, 12:06

I own a 2006 Camry LE and if the Tundra is half as bad as this car I wouldn't touch one with a 10 foot pole. My car has been in the shop on average of once a month for the past year and the service is awful. Some things have taken 3 visits to get right and the transmission still is not shifting right. I owned a Ford before that never had a problem in 100,000 miles. I'm getting another Ford as soon as I can unload this lemon.