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I have heard it was more reliable than a V6 Accord, but I have yet to find a report that says it is better than a Four banger Accord. Reliability is something that cannot be accurately determined in only one year in my opinion. If I drove the Fusion like I do my Accord, I have a feeling I would have to replace the engine and transmission a lot and everything else would fall off of it like past Fords. I have 250,000 miles on my Accord and I know it cannot be beaten by the Fusion. I am also 19 years old and have not had anything break on my Honda except for maintenance like spark plugs or tires. I have driven my Accord for about 50,000 miles now.
In five years the Fusion will be another one of Ford;s "Flash in the pan" cars and will probably be obsolete while the Camry will sill continue to dominate.
The Fusion is a junk car and you cannot say its more reliable then a Accord or Camry since its only been out for a year.
What on Earth has a company's balance sheet got to do with the car's reliability??? While Nissan was going bankrupt the import crowd would have had a cow if anyone had questioned THEIR reliability. In addition, where is the evidence that Ford is so unreliable?? We are constantly bombarded with such unfounded statements, but never a SHRED of data or evidence to back up such silly claims. On the other hand, THOUSANDS of companies use Ford cars and trucks and rack up 250,000 to 300,000 miles of trouble-free service from them.
"No one pays 50K for a Camry and no one will."
You're right, I wouldn't pay 50k for a Camry. I wouldn't pay 5k for a Camry. If the day comes when Toyota really does drive Ford, GM, and Daimler-Chrysler out of North America, I'll be pulling old domestics out of the weeds to drive before I permit some Toyota to sit in my garage.
At least the Fusion has not suffered from defective air bags, faulty steering, sticking accelerators, front suspension failures, bad brakes, peeling paint, oil leaks, and collant leaks as recent Toyotas have. I have not seen a single reason to assume that the Fusion is not WAY BETTER than the Camry. No one has offered any evidence to that effect, only unfounded and untrue statements that "Toyotas are better" with nothing to support those claims.
Give it time I promise that there will be multiple recalls on the fusion.
I cannot wait til the new Taurus reintroduction arrives. I had great luck with my new ones and would order a couple again.
"The only place I have seen the Fusion better than an Accord was on Ford's website, but in the real world the Accord that is five years old outshines it by far. Kind of weird it is only a Ford commercial that says that isn't it?"
Your forgetting that it was a test performed by road and track magazine where they brought in 600 people to test drive all 3 vehicles and the ford came out with the highest rating. And of course it's only in a ford commercial. Do you really expect to see Toyota or honda praising a ford in their commercials?
"Did Ford compare a Fusion top line against an Accord DX? seems so to me."
I would not be surprised if Ford did that. The ONLY way someone would ever pick a Fusion over an Accord is if you give them the top of the line fusion over the low-end version of the Accord and even then most (People who know about cars) would still take the Accord, besides Ford probably chose people who have a bias against imports, its the only logical explanation.
Why buy a car with only 36,000 mile standard warranty when you can have a new GM with 100,000 mile standard mechanical warranty? I went from a new Acura right to new full size GM's and have only had oil changes and a seat belt retractor replaced in my first 28,000 miles. Better than paying $4000 for a new transmission in under 40,000 miles on what I thought was a better quality import. I bought almost all my vehicles as imports until recently.
Honda just wants to make money in my situation. I bought the 7yr/100,000 miles warranty and never had to use it at all for big repairs. Here is how it worked well for me though. I bought a certified 1999 Honda Accord w/45,000 miles and when it went through certification they replaced the brakes and the battery and changed all the fluids. She is still running pretty today at 150,000 miles. In my case the warranty had no use other than the free battery and rear brakes. I should add that many Honda's get customized and raced that I would think it would become an expense for Honda to have a standard 100k warranty.
5:03...I drive a lot per year. I would rather have a 100,000 miles warranty from the domestics than having a 40,000 mile import out of warranty completely. I had that happen already with my Honda. I suspect GM would have warranties covered irregardless in that event by the way.
To the March 26, 8:00 poster I just want to say THAT WAS A GREAT REPLY. And I could not agree with it more.
You domestic buyers should blame the UAW for being greedy and wanting more money for less work (Unions are usually a good thing, except for the UAW). Ford makes vehicles that they cut corners on and spend their money on paying the UAW instead of research and development like Toyota and Honda do and when you drive their vehicles it shows. As for Mitsubishi, they are NOT the standard for Japanese reliability as they are nothing more than a lame Chrysler/Dodge wannabe so good riddance if they don't sell in The US. If it aint Honda, Toyota, or Subaru then its not true Japanese design.
"GM and Ford's problems stem from the fact NO ONE wants their cars."
Then why do ford and GM still sell millions of vehicles every year? I guess those millions of people didn't want them? Don't tell me about predictions and analysists tell me about the sales numbers. And if you hadn't noticed Ford and GM are still firmly in the top 5 automakers, but that means no one wants them right?
Just check out the latest Ford Fusion review (it was posted today) if you want the REAL story on what smart drivers are buying. The review is titled "What a REAL CAR should be" and is written by a FORMER CAMRY OWNER no less!!! I LOVE IT!!